Yeah, any updates???

 

Find them if you can somewhere and then tell me!

52200-SAA-E00 and 52210-SAA-E00
Rear spindle/caliper bracket, left and right.

Cheers and good luck, I tried going through a few what I thought were good sources but alas no luck.

~Alex

 

Alex,
are we talking about '88 Integra brackets?
I am looking at Delray Acura website, but just plain p/n search did not yield any results. Problem is, the older the car gets the more p/n get pulled off their availability list.
I asked my brother-in-law in Croatia to go to local Honda dealer and get me OEM JAZZ p/n's for entire rear brake set up. Little prick just can't find enough time to go there. He is e-mailing them! I can do that from here, but they do not take me seriously!

Here is the link to '88 Integra set up:
Acura Parts @ AcuraOEMparts.com - Genuine Acura OEM Parts from Delray Acura

General site is this: Acura Parts & Genuine Acura OEM Parts | Acura Body Parts @AcuraOEMparts.com

Please let me know and I will keep searching.

Ivan

 

These part numbers are the ones listed in a SE asian honda catalog. These have nothing to do with the old integras at all. I think however that you'd be able to use any 90+ integra rear calipers....or civic ones.

~Alex

 

Right I've been on to my local dealer in the UK and he's faxing me some pics of the rear disc setup on the new sport model over here so I can highlight what I'm after an get some prices. Hopefully get some info posted later on maybe with some scans of their diagrams!

 

Hope this helps, if you can see a part that will work let me know an I can get the price

 

i love those old school wooden boats!wish i could afford one, anyboat really.

bump for the thread

 

Isitafox,
great job on being able to pull info out!
From this diagram it would be helpful to know Honda's OEM P/N on # 4(hub), 6 (rotor), 2 (brake pads), 3 (brake pad shims), 9 (brake pads & shims combo), 7 & 8 (caliper assembly). Hopefully Honda of Europe has the same P/N's as in US so we can cross match with other Honda cars what is available here in US and what is not.
What we really need is the diagram of the rear beam with trailing arms and spindles. Key thing is if the caliper bracket is one piece with the spindle, separate bolt on piece, or simply a part of a trailing arms. Last case scenario would be the worst, since it would mean that we need to replace entire rear beam with trailing arms if we are going to use direct Honda swap.
Isitafox, below is the link to a diagram from US Fit of the rear beam and spindles. As you can see, it does not show any caliper mounts since Drum assembly bolts to it. I am hoping that Euro diagram will show the caliper bracket.
Honda Automotive Parts

Thanks for taking your time and helping us out!
Sincerely,
Ivan

 

Right, on my basic service and repair disc off ebay I found these diagrams of spindle setup with drum, with disc and full hub assembly. I've got the prices for the stuff in the first pic at wotk so will post tomorrow, as for the others I'll get on to Honda again an get a price for the brackets now I can show him what I need! Keep ya posted!
Drum

Disc

Hub

 

Glad to see someone has really gotten some info on this stuff. In that last diagram what you'll need is the hub assembly. It is not only that but also the caliper mounting bracket. It's all one piece and from the image, it has the same bolt pattern as the drum thus all you'll have to do it swap it and use the same hardware. From everything I've seen, if you were able to get the hub then you could use usdm civic(1992-1995 Si/EX(abs)) and integra(1990-2000) rear calipers/rotors. I don't think it'd be much of a hassle to get 2 rear brake hoses made from some braided material and get creative on routing them.

The rear hubs from the US honda dealer are about $65 a piece. I'm thinking that the ones for disc brakes should be in the same ballpark....and then of course you have your USD to £.

I'll buy a set....groupbuy!

~Alex

 

here's a pic of drum assembly, hubs may be the same!



Will get more info!

 

Right got an update, got the following prices an they're a bit steep!

The caliper brackets are £91 each, hubs £120 each and then discs and pads are £40 and £30 but they can be found a lot cheaper elsewhere. Looks like the best and cheapest way is to go down the custom bracket route, that way we can retain our hubs and save a bit of money. One thing though, the spindle is built in to the caliper bracket on the fit so how do ya get around that?? Need to make it all work with the abs sensor. Other wise could you use EK civic rear brakes as my old EK had ABS and with it not being very old they may use the same system?? I'll keep searchin for as much info as pos!

 

Isitafox,
great work! Prices, I expected them to be steep in first dealership.
Can you get a hold of actual Honda part numbers for (#1)spindle with a built in caliper bracket, a (#2)(#3)hub for both disc and drum, brake hydraulic rubber (#4)hoses and handbrake (#5)cables?
This way we can tell for sure if disc and drum set up share same hub.
Also we will be able to Goggle search through the web from here in US while you are doing the same within UK.
With actual part numbers we can actually shop around throughout Europe for best prices.
Just so you are aware, dealerships within US can have very different prices for the same item. It is all about stock levels and demand in US. Dealerships in smaller cities can sometimes have outrageous prices on one item and just about give it away on another!
I absolutely agree with you that building a custom bracket is the cheapest way and sourcing calipers and miscellaneous parts from a wrecking yard.
I was not sure if bracket is a part of a spindle or even a trailing arm!
I have friends machine shop at my disposal and bracket is not a problem.
Reason I am doing this is the fact that many Fit owners are reluctant to mess around with 3rd party brackets on something as crucial as brakes!
It would be great if we can collectively work and find a source with a reasonable pricing for original spindle/bracket part for people willing to pay a bit extra to stay OEM. From there, some will choose to buy OEM calipers from a dealer or automotive part stores that carry re manufactured calipers. Some will opt to get them from a wrecking yard and rebuild them (hopefully) themselves(Honda specialized wrecking yards in San Francisco Bay Area and greater Los Angeles Area charge up to 90% of new price on a used part!!!). Yet some will be willing to buy a quality bracket made out of a quality material.
Key for me is for people to have choices! Makes me sick how much some companies charge for full conversion! Yet they are not willing to make certain pieces available for purchase. There is enough of handy "do it yourself" types among us that can get it together if basic pieces were available.
Goal is to say contact this source for OEM spindle/bracket.
Contact this source for new calipers, hoses and cable lines.
Contact this source for re manufactured calipers.
Contact this source for custom made quality bracket that is reasonably priced.
It is up to each FitFreak member to decide which route suits him/her the best!
Isitafox, you are doing us all a great favor for doing the legwork outside our reach. You deserve a ton of rep points!

 

Thank you to everybody for your efforts to bring this all together logically, safely, and we hope, affordably. I am still waiting for Skunk2 to come through with their promised group buy kit, but will be very happy to act on the possibility of buying the required components from the sources that you all recommend.

 

Part numbers as follows boys!

1. Spindle and caliper bracket 52200-SAA-E00 and 52210-SAA-E00
2. Disc hub 42200-SAA-G51
3. Drum hub
4. Brake hoses 01466-SAA-J51 and J50 I think, also got code 01466-SAA-000 listed but I assume that is for the drum brakes as the same number is listed twice
5. Handbrake cable right side 47510-SAA-J53
and Left side 47560-SAA-J53.
If anyone needs any part numbers wotsoever let me know as I've downloaded Honda's electronic parts catalogue upto 2005 so can find just about anythin!

 

You are the man, Isitafox!
We are on to something. Spindle/bracket part number in Europe matches Asia sourced part numbers from earlier posts! Good thing that Honda keeps part numbers the same for same parts across the globe.
Guys, time to power up web search for best deal!
Start digging when you have time and post what you come up with.
Good luck everybody!

Isitafox, thank you so much for getting all this info!

 

No probs, I'm here to help! Comes in useful havin a UK contact!!

 

If you guys are willing to wait i'm pretty sure the new 2009 honda fits will come with rear disc brakes from the factory, since the jdm ones do, but then you'd have to wait until next september aproximately

 

Who can order these and ship them to the US? My 2possible friends abroad have failed to follow up.
~Alex

 

Alex, everybody,
I am sorry, but I am tied up with so many things at the moment.
I do not count on my brother in law anymore.
I also need to drop my car off for airbag reprogramming (I have not done it yet!) and I will simply ask the guy at Honda parts department I am good with if he can order these parts based on part numbers we now have.
It might be expensive, but no shipping cost and by far simplest solution!
If it is possible that is.
I suggest you try the same. It might boil down to how helpful individual at the counter is. Also how much pull individual has within the dealership itself. Also the higher volume sales they have on the books the more pull from American Honda Corporate they have.
Years ago I was rebuilding my CRX engine and proved microfiche Honda provided to parts departments was not of an Si 1600 CC engine, but 1500 CC engine. I needed high pressure oil ring which other models did not have on crankshaft caps.
Parts department manager believed me and we went through corporate all the way to Japan for info. I received couple of oil rings for free straight from Japan by FEDEX!

Guys, now we need a bit of luck, locally!

Ivan