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Old 07-20-2012, 01:57 PM
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Need some info on improving handling for a DD

Hi,

I am a new owner of at 2012 Fit Sport A/T.

On twisty bumpy roads the Fit feels awfully 'floaty'. Sometimes
it feels like the back end wants to catch up to the front end.

It has been suggested that:
1) Swift (lowering) springs and
2) Progress Anti-sway bar
3) Better tires

Will make the Fit better riding.

Note I am not a do it yourself person.

I talked to the local honda dealer and he asserted that it is
very easy to have problems with lowering springs
i.e. early strut failure, alignment problems, extra noise, tire rubbing, etc...

Could some of the more knowledgeable folks in these forums give me
a critical analysis of whatever the good *and* bad points of using the
swift springs.

I understand that the rear axle of the Sport already acts like an
anti-sway bar.

What effect does adding the Progress anti-sway bar have on the
Fit Sports ride? Some posts seem to indicate that the Progress bar
does a 'good' job. ( Tain't clear to me what a good job means).

I think I will have to hold off on getting new tires for a while...

I basically want a daily drive that handles well ( and can handle
dips and bumps with damaging something underneath)

Any insights are appreciated

Jerry
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:27 PM
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a good quick upgrade would be better tires... even that alone will do. adding all your list of components plus lightweight wheels makes it even moooore better.
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Grayfox
Sometimes it feels like the back end wants to catch up to the front end.
If you don't like that feeling, you should skip the rear sway bar. It will introduce more rotation, which is what this feeling is.

Swift Springs barely drop the car, only 1" or so, and will be fine with your stock struts, will not rub, or do anything terrible to your car. Alignment should be no problem. Should fix the "floaty feeling" some.

Swift springs + good performance tire, call it a day.
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:45 PM
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I swear people are going to start thinking I work for Swift lol

I just did all of the above to my 2012 Fit sport A/T and it is a totally different car in the way it handles.

I first upgraded the tires to Kuhmo Ecsta 4X 205/50/16 this made a big difference in road feel and the twitchy ultra sharp steering you get with stock Dunlops.

I actually liked the go kart like handling but what I have now is awesome.

I had the Swifts and Progress RSB installed a couple weeks after the tires and hit the canyons the same day.

I'm not kidding this car handles like a car that cost twice or three times more.The ride is stiffer but still comfortable even with 4 adults.

No rubbing at all and so much fun to drive.I'm not worried about the stock dampers because the Swifts do not overwhelm them at all.

I don't know how much of a difference the RSB makes because I had everything installed together but I would say it does it's job.

I could go on and on it really is that good!!!!
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:20 PM
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Where did U buy the Swifts?
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:05 PM
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Just wanted to add that the progress bar didn't decrease ride quality very much at all with the Swifts. I bet with the stock springs you'd be able to tell more. That said, it doesn't sound like that is what the OP wants. So far, the fastest sustained cornering speed I could achieve (with understeer) has been with the factory suspension and upgraded 205s. Still tweaking the new setup, but there is more control now. You can just keep cutting the wheel and the car will do what you want until the rear almost comes out. Lots more control now. More grip has yet to be seen, but I need an alignment before I can tell for sure all the differences.
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mkane
Where did U buy the Swifts?
I picked mine up here Evasive Motorsports | PH: 626.336.3400 Mon-Fri, 9am-6pm PST?
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Grayfox
1) Swift (lowering) springs and

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I talked to the local honda dealer and he asserted that it is
very easy to have problems with lowering springs
i.e. early strut failure, alignment problems, extra noise, tire rubbing, etc...

.

Jerry
Here's the thing... the Swifts are NOT LOWERING SPRINGS.

There's a difference between lowering springs and springs that happen to lower. Many lowering springs have just the goal of dropping the car, "moar moar moar" and sometimes, performance suffers until other adjustments are made (stronger dampener). The Swifts are designed for "better than stock" performance with the OE dampener in mind and lowering the Fit is a byproduct of it (not the goal).
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Goobers
Here's the thing... the Swifts are NOT LOWERING SPRINGS.

There's a difference between lowering springs and springs that happen to lower. Many lowering springs have just the goal of dropping the car, "moar moar moar" and sometimes, performance suffers until other adjustments are made (stronger dampener). The Swifts are designed for "better than stock" performance with the OE dampener in mind and lowering the Fit is a byproduct of it (not the goal).
Thank you, this is useful information...

Jerry
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:21 PM
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Thats what I'm after. Dont want to go low, just want to control body roll, which will keep camber change in check.
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:27 PM
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I can understand not wanting to change out your new tires so early.
I was going strictly for max performance while keeping my car semi comfy.

My stock Dunnies only had around 9K on them when I replaced them.I just stored them and will use for spare if needed.

The tires alone do make a difference but the Swifts get rid of the floaty feeling you described.

I have a 2 finger gap front and rear and don't expect the Swifts to sag.
I'm going to do the alignment in a couple weeks and I'm good to go.

I never have been one to lower a car for looks so the mild drop Fit's me just fine
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:30 PM
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The consensus seems to be that the 205/50 16 tire improves
the handling of the Fit Sport.

Seems like a small change in size has a fairly significant impact...

I thought the stock Dunlop's were supposed to be a performance
tire...

Is there a consensus opinion on which brand of tire stands above
the rest ( Tire Rack has the Kumho 4x's with a 50.00 coupon which
would bring the delivery price to about 356.00.)

Still getting mixed reviews on the Progress anti-sway bar

Jerry
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:38 PM
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I have mine for sale... check the for sale section under 2nd gen
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:23 PM
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I jumped on the Kuhmo deal from Discount tire $75.00 a tire plus the $50.00 rebate

Tires are one of those things that most people have a certain brand they tend to use.
I usually ran Yokohama or Pirelli on my Mustangs but heard good things about the Kuhmo.

I love these tires and will go with another set when these wear out.
The 7.5 thread width of the 205's compared to the 6.3 of the 185/55/16 Dunlops

gives a nice contact patch improvement and you notice it right away.
 
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