Well, i about ran the michelins down into the cord. i know, i know, just short on cash and all with the new baby. so anyway, went to Discount Tire and got some pirelli P4s 185/65 R14. What was weird is that the "man" stated that the 175/65s were an odd size and the cost went up considerably. We're talking about 200 bills difference! Wow, anyone else notice this with there stock steelies? Anyhow, the pirelli seems like a great all around rubber donut! quiet, great on cornering and looks nice too! I will have to see how long this tire does out here in the Az heat.