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Old 06-15-2012, 08:29 AM
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I want thick tyres, 17" won't make it. I sometimes go through deep pot holes after rainy days which is why i want the 205/50 to keep some thickness.

Quick question, is the brand Rota good ?, i see a lot of it.

I need camber bolts for those mild eibach first level lowering? just 1" or so
 

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Old 06-15-2012, 08:41 AM
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Rota is kinda meh. There a cheaper wheel brand. Some people like them, some people don't, and some people say that they are prone to catastrophic failure. I personally have always used enkei wheels (they make oem wheels for honda). If you want to save some money IMHO rotas should be ok on a 16x7 (just swerve those potholes).

You might not need the camber bolts. If you decide on this setup mount the wheels and tires and drive around like you normally do and if you run in to some kind of rubbing up front consider camber bolts.
 

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Old 06-15-2012, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by krunk13
Rota is kinda meh. There a cheaper wheel brand. Some people like them, some people don't, and some people say that they are prone to catastrophic failure. I personally have always used enkei wheels (they make oem wheels for honda). If you want to save some money IMHO rotas should be ok on a 16x7 (just swerve those potholes).

You might not need the camber bolts. If you decide on this setup mount the wheels and tires and drive around like you normally do and if you run in to some kind of rubbing up front consider camber bolts.

Ok i will stick to enkei, sounds like a good choice.

So you reckon
1. +43
2. eibach 1"
 
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:59 AM
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Thats what im doing.... 16x7 RPF1 +43 on swift springs 1.3" with 205/50/r16
 
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by krunk13
Thats what im doing.... 16x7 RPF1 +43 on swift springs 1.3" with 205/50/r16

Oh my

All i need now is a picture brother

Can you please show me a picture of your car so i get an idea now that we are on the same level
 
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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My fit is preety stock right now. I just gave you a list of the parts that im getting.

There are lots of pics of fits with rpf1's though
 
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:50 AM
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The Enkei RPF1 wheels in 15"X7"41mm offset is what I chose to use with 195-55-15 tires due to the reduction in rotating mass and unsprung weight... At 9.5lbs each it is easy to reduce the weight of all 4 wheels and tires by up to 50 lbs which improves the steering, braking, handling, ride, acceleration. It also reduces wear on all of those components and the drive train as well... Using 195-50-15" tires will also give you a lower final drive ratio that will improve the acceleration even more... Presently I have Kosei 16X6 1/2" wheels that weigh 2 lbs more and 205-50-15"45mm Goodyear GT tires that weigh 7lbs more than the stock tires and are .67 of an inch taller... They hold the road better but have put a hurt on all of the things that had been improved by use of the lighter wheels and tires. The Enkei RPF1 wheels and lighter than stock Conti Pro Contact tires were only second in performance gains to installing the KWSC 5PSI base kit... With the heavier wheels and tires I can feel a very noticeable loss of acceleration even with the 10PSI high boost upgrade to my KWSC.
 
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
The Enkei RPF1 wheels in 15"X7"41mm offset is what I chose to use with 195-55-15 tires due to the reduction in rotating mass and unsprung weight... At 9.5lbs each it is easy to reduce the weight of all 4 wheels and tires by up to 50 lbs which improves the steering, braking, handling, ride, acceleration. It also reduces wear on all of those components and the drive train as well... Using 195-50-15" tires will also give you a lower final drive ratio that will improve the acceleration even more... Presently I have Kosei 16X6 1/2" wheels that weigh 2 lbs more and 205-50-15"45mm Goodyear GT tires that weigh 7lbs more than the stock tires and are .67 of an inch taller... They hold the road better but have put a hurt on all of the things that had been improved by use of the lighter wheels and tires. The Enkei RPF1 wheels and lighter than stock Conti Pro Contact tires were only second in performance gains to installing the KWSC 5PSI base kit... With the heavier wheels and tires I can feel a very noticeable loss of acceleration even with the 10PSI high boost upgrade to my KWSC.

Hmmmmm 15" huh ... care to show me, to have an idea how it looks. I wondered about smaller size and more offset. I did read somewhere that the 15s have a more considerable reduction in weight.
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:05 AM
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Ok, i've decided on the Enkei pf01

205/50/16 +43 Offset - Eibach pro 1.2"Front and 1.4"Rear


If anyone has this setup or something near and can confirm that this will work, I will be very grateful

I know the setting will work with +45 offset but I am going for the 43 offset as it sits flush at the front.


Also TireRack recommends this exact combination, but do they take lowering in consideration when they post their recommendations up ?

Thanks again.
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by spootnik
Ok, i've decided on the Enkei pf01

205/50/16 +43 Offset - Eibach pro 1.2"Front and 1.4"Rear


If anyone has this setup or something near and can confirm that this will work, I will be very grateful

I know the setting will work with +45 offset but I am going for the 43 offset as it sits flush at the front.


Also TireRack recommends this exact combination, but do they take lowering in consideration when they post their recommendations up ?

Thanks again.
No they measure from stock height. On the site they warn that anything under 45mm might need camber adjustment. Its not really a big deal to be 2mm lower thought
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by krunk13
No they measure from stock height. On the site they warn that anything under 45mm might need camber adjustment. Its not really a big deal to be 2mm lower thought
Aha, i did not know that. Thank you sir

Hmmmm, every day that goes by i keep increasing the offset , hahaha.

So +45 seems to be the safest from all side then.

Are those 2mm a bad thing ? , i mean driving the car without camber adjustment.
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:49 AM
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I read today in a thread that a guy running those rpf01 with exact 250/50/16 with +43 offset rubs when he does turns with a hump at the same time, lowered on swift springs if i can recall ...... which is a tad bit milder than the eibachs. Soooo, this is not very good news
 
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If you are worried about it you could go with-
  1. Camber adjustment
  2. 195 tires
  3. or swift springs
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by krunk13
If you are worried about it you could go with-
  1. Camber adjustment
  2. 195 tires
  3. or swift springs

Ouhhh, you done your home work well

I'll go +45 then

Thanks for the help
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:13 AM
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Whats your budget?
 
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Whats your budget?

$3000, give or take same exchange rate as yours these days.
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:21 AM
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Haave you considered Work wheels? They are more exspensive but they come in lots of different offsets.

11R's are nice
 
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The 205 50s on 16"X6 1/2" 45mm offset is what I have on my car right now.. The weight difference compared with the 15'x7" Enkei RPF1s and 195-55s is very noticeable when accelerating but they are great looking and I can corner a lot more aggressively without understeer becoming oversteer when lifting up on the throttle while in a fast curve... Where I live driving on a lowered suspension is not an option unless you don't mind having to reattach your front bumper to the fenders every time you drive to town.. I do have coil overs but only to improve the handling by adjusting spring preload and dampening . There are a few kids that live in town that have lowered suspensions and huge wheels and tires but not the guys with fast cars that run hard on back roads late at night when a shift change at the sheriff's is occurring. I cut some donut shaped spacers from 1/4" rubber matting yesterday to raise the rear end a little higher by placing them between the upper spring perch and the top of the spring height adjuster.. Now the car is sitting level on each end..
 
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Old 06-17-2012, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
The 205 50s on 16"X6 1/2" 45mm offset is what I have on my car right now.. The weight difference compared with the 15'x7" Enkei RPF1s and 195-55s is very noticeable when accelerating but they are great looking and I can corner a lot more aggressively without understeer becoming oversteer when lifting up on the throttle while in a fast curve... Where I live driving on a lowered suspension is not an option unless you don't mind having to reattach your front bumper to the fenders every time you drive to town.. I do have coil overs but only to improve the handling by adjusting spring preload and dampening . There are a few kids that live in town that have lowered suspensions and huge wheels and tires but not the guys with fast cars that run hard on back roads late at night when a shift change at the sheriff's is occurring. I cut some donut shaped spacers from 1/4" rubber matting yesterday to raise the rear end a little higher by placing them between the upper spring perch and the top of the spring height adjuster.. Now the car is sitting level on each end..
ok but at 6.5 inch 38mm is the correct offset.
 
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ok but at 6.5 inch 38mm is the correct offset.
I hope you are just kidding.
 


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