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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 09:59 PM
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Costly Oil change

Took my 2012 Fit to the dealer today to have the oil changed $49.95 synthetic no too bad. 79 yr old soon to be 80 no complaints. Tech comes out shows me the oil cap. It shows a crack some idiot glued it down opening f'd up oil had been drained dealer won't fill it and let me leave say I have to have it towed. Quotes me $ 900 to fix drops it to $750 out the door. I can get all parts for $250. In my earlier life I would have had it towed to my house and done it myself too old for that. Hope the cover is not on backorder.
 
Old Feb 9, 2022 | 10:29 PM
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Took my 2012 Fit to the dealer today to have the oil changed $49.95 synthetic no too bad. 79 yr old soon to be 80 no complaints. Tech comes out shows me the oil cap. It shows a crack some idiot glued it down opening f'd up oil had been drained dealer won't fill it and let me leave say I have to have it towed. Quotes me $ 900 to fix drops it to $750 out the door. I can get all parts for $250. In my earlier life I would have had it towed to my house and done it myself too old for that. Hope the cover is not on backorder.
Maybe read that a few times and see if you can have it make more sense?
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 05:45 AM
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 10:59 AM
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Maybe read that a few times and see if you can have it make more sense?
​​​​​​Took my 2012 Fit to the dealer today to have the oil changed $49.95 synthetic no too bad.
79 yrs old soon to be 80 too old to do my own so no complaints.
Tech comes out shows me the oil cap.
It shows a crack some idiot glued it down opening f'd up.
Oil had been drained dealer won't fill it and let me leave says I have to have it towed.
Quotes me $ 900 to fix drops it to $750 out the door.
I can get all parts for $250.
In my earlier life I would have had it towed to my house and done it myself too old for that. 2
​​​​​​​Hope the cover is not on backorder.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 12:10 PM
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Sorry, I'm still a little confused. Are you saying that the oil filler cap is broken?
I just checked Carid.com and that's a $5-$10 part (generic).
Since you're at the dealer, I checked my local dealer website and the Honda part (15610-RP3-A00) is $17.62.

What am I missing here?
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 01:41 PM
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Sorry, I'm still a little confused. Are you saying that the oil filler cap is broken?
I just checked Carid.com and that's a $5-$10 part (generic).
Since you're at the dealer, I checked my local dealer website and the Honda part (15610-RP3-A00) is $17.62.

What am I missing here?
Who ever did it screwed up the opening won't take a cap so I need a new valve cover plus the cap.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 02:05 PM
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OK. Assuming you didn't glue your oil cap on then either the dealership did it or someone did it during a previous oil change, right?

Is this the first time you've had the oil changed (i.e., did you recently purchase the car)? If not, where have you had your oil changed in the past? Any reason to suspect that that person/business would have tried to conceal damage that they caused?

Did the dealership show you evidence that the oil filler cap had been glued on, or did they just show you a broken cap? Did they show you damage to the valve cover? I could have sworn that the oil pour area is a metal insert in the plastic cover. If so, that would be difficult to damage.

The oil filler cap can get very tight. I have had to use a pair of channel lock pliers (padded with some rags) to very carefully break mine loose in the past. I can see how the oil fill cap could be damaged if care was not taken, but I can't imagine damaging the pour area in the valve cover.

I would definitely ask some questions regarding when and how the damage occurred. If the dealership's mechanic did it you obviously shouldn't be paying.

This does illustrate a good lesson for both DIY and professional mechanics: never drain oil, or transmission fluid, or whatever, until you know you can refill.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 02:06 PM
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Ah now it finally makes sense.

If that happened to me I'd have it towed to my home. A valve cover from a wrecker is an option. Wise to put on a new gasket too.

Any idea who messed it up? The price the dealer is asking to fix it doesn't cut it. And I wouldn't pay them for the oil change since they refused to finish it.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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I bought the car last July 98,000 miles on it, dash had oil at 70% it hit 15% last week.
I saw both the cap and the cover and the pour area was messed up no way it would hold a cap.

Was told they had to remove the intake to the do the cover that's the reason for the high cost.
I am 79 yrs old I'll be 80 in April. I do get around am currently working on replacing the running lights on a golf cart. I started 3 weeks ago f'd up my right hand fingers with a torque gun. I didn't have it tightly in my hand it spun which forced my finger to press harder on the trigger. Still hurts so I am in no shape to do any work on the car.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 02:58 PM
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Sorry to hear about your hand. Powered tools are great right until they hurt you. Hope you feel better soon.
Removing the intake and replacing the cover is not a difficult job if you're up for it but with a bum hand that's not an option. Maybe someone on this forum lives in your area and would be willing to turn a wrench for you. I would do it but we're about 2800 miles apart.

If you have to pay labor charges (probably $50-100+/hour), it's going to be costly. Paying to tow it somewhere else like an independent garage could also be costly. Only you can figure out which is the better deal in your area.

Since you took it to the dealer for an oil change I figure you probably don't have a regular independent mechanic, so you're kind of stuck. I would push the dealer for an additional discount for the complete job. Regardless of whether the cap was glued on or not, they broke it while removing it. As I said in my previous post, any good mechanic will make sure they can get the oil fill cap loose before they drain the oil, so the fact that you have no oil and no cap is on them.

Good luck.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GER42
​​​​​​Took my 2012 Fit to the dealer today to have the oil changed $49.95 synthetic no too bad.
79 yrs old soon to be 80 too old to do my own so no complaints.
Tech comes out shows me the oil cap.
It shows a crack some idiot glued it down opening f'd up.
Oil had been drained dealer won't fill it and let me leave says I have to have it towed.
Quotes me $ 900 to fix drops it to $750 out the door.
I can get all parts for $250.
In my earlier life I would have had it towed to my house and done it myself too old for that. 2
Hope the cover is not on backorder.
Darn, that sucks! Whoever glued that oil cap was not very bright. Oil caps are really cheap.

Did you end up paying the $750?

On the bright side, 2012 is a great year for the Fit. Should last you a long time as long as the first owner wasn't a complete idiot. Hopefully that glued oil cap isn't a sign of future findings.
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 06:56 PM
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Good news dealer says I can pickup the car tomorrow.
 
Old Feb 11, 2022 | 09:52 PM
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I never even thought to check that I could get the cap loose before draining the oil so thanks for suggesting it. Somehow I don't think we covered this in my auto mechanics class in high school. Or maybe we did and I just didn't learn it.
 
Old Feb 11, 2022 | 10:51 PM
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Especially important when changing transmission oil. Some of the fill plugs can be almost impossible to remove from the tranny.
 
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