I hear you man. I am not implying that's what you meant. I was just adding my $0.02.

The god's honest truth is i don't think there is ANY oil crunch/shortage in our near future (next 75 years). I seriously doubt global warming too. -but that's another thread- I do however think that there are better resources available to us from a cost standpoint and why not do as little damage to the earth as possible?

I'm not arguing with you man. Just want to make that clear. You have very good points.

 

I dunno. I just saw the weather and it's apparently warmer in Maine than it is in California. Go figure that one. lol The recent storms this past winter/spring just sorta came out of nowhere in a very "

I don't think there's a shortage of oil, but I do believe oil companies are taking a huge advantage of people by falsely alleging the shortage to cause panic, which increases demand. Tell people there's not a lot of something and they'll pay whatever price, no matter how unreasonable, to have it. People are sheep.

It doesn't surprise me being it comes from GM. For some odd reason, GM pulls better mileage out of a 600hp Corvette than they do out of some of their far less powerful sedans. They're a mystery to me...

Speaking of engine swaps, there's an Insight with a K20 + 6 speed swap, tuned to 200hp even, that's pretty dang fast AND still gets 50 mpg. I'd love to see what could be done with a CR-X given the right aerodynamics and weight.

My money's on compressed air

Motor Authority » Tata-backed air-powered car in U.S. by 2010

 

Sorry to say, Cavie, but you are incorrect. There is not a problem yet with reserves in the ground but there is with just how much we can get out per day AND how many bidders there are on what's coming out.
Thanks to China and India becoming big bidders the cost of crude will continue to rise and our USA needs the most and has the least margin to buy which is why China and India have the advantage. In a few years China will sell 30 MM cars a year, twice what we have. And who put China in business Us. In economics you learn price depends on supply and demand. The more demand for less supplies the higher the price.
As crude prices rise, so does gasoline.
Here's more agitatations: did you know some Moslem parts of OPEC are saying that if Hillary is elected the US will be too feckless a country to assist so gas may rise to $6/gal. If you had read the Quran you would know how true that can be. Leadership women have little respect in Islam.
The rumor mill also says the closet Moslem would have an advantage dealing with OPEC.
THAT ISN'T THE SAME WITH 'GLOBAL WARMING. Proponents take readings a few years apart to extrapolate results failing to note that they are sampling only a small period too short to be statistically valid. Its like taking blood pressure readings a minute apart and trying to determine the patient's health. Very likely the patient would be judged ready to die even tho in good health.
As you say though its suspect there's common sense that says manage the earth's resources wisely. Considering the sales of Hummers, we haven't done that.
cheers.

 

Very interesting question

The Fit is definitely channeling some of the things I liked about both my 76 Civic, and my 86 CRX

Great car, but I don't think it will reach the same iconic level as the CRX, just my :twocents:

Btw, for you young ponks, there's no "dash" in CRX, I'm just sayin'

 

There's no dash in "CRX", but there IS a dash in "Honda Ballade Sports CR-X", the original name of the car for the Japanese market. The dash was used on all first generation models, including USDM, where the "CR-X" was named Motor Trend Import of the Year twice, I believe it was? The dash was continued in Japan and Europe on both second and third generation models (third generation being the first generation USDM Del Sol). The dash was omitted on second generation USDM vehicles for a reason I never understood.

I'm just sayin'....

 

Your wrong, the 3rd generation CRX (and most “iconic”) had a full contemporary dash in it.

I don’t think the fit will reach the iconic popularity but that still doesn’t mean it isn’t a spiritual successor.

 

First, I believe he was referring to the hyphen, not the actual dashboard. lol

Second, the 2nd gen was the most iconic. Nobody cared much for the poor Del Sol . lol

 

Interesting revisionist history on your part. I agree that in the day, most 1st and 2nd generation CRX owners were quite mad at the 3rd generation but:

The del Sol (known every where in the world as the “CRX” and branded “del Sol” in the USA only) even in its low production had the largest Honda club ever created backing it (was exceeded only by the S2000 club in about 2003-04). The del Sol club had 25 chapters across the world and an estimated 30000 active members. Over 1000 of them were paying members. There were at least a thousand meets across the world and 3 major national meets in the last 90's. In its time it just about rivaled the major Miata club (which was one of the largest in existence). The club was so large that 1st and 2ng generation CRX owners were paying membership fees to be a part of it.

Remnants of that club are STILL out there to this day over 10 years later even though that car hasn’t been built for 10 years.

 

The Del Sol had the largest club, but poor sales kept it from sticking around. I'm sure things will change in time.

 

Again, that’s revisionist. That’s like saying the S2000 had poor sales with production of 7000ish a year at first. The del Sol was never a high production car and Honda had no problem selling them up until the last year (much like the S2000). The del Sol had technically a 6 year model run which was 2-3 more than the 1st and 2nd generation CRX. By your logic, you are saying the 1st and 2nd CRX was more of a sales failure then the 3rd gen.

I can keep going with this argument. This CRX argument has been going on since the beginning days and the rhetoric I hear from the 2nd generation CRX guys toward the 3rd has been nothing more the what I categorize as “hater fan boy” in nature.

I have the interesting perspective that I have owned them all and there is absolutely no doubt that the 3rd generation del Sol DOHC VTEC was the top dog in the CRX realm by anything that measures a car from quality to performance. Again, just look at the dash.

 

As long as we are back on topic and no longer spewing AGW rhetoric from our asses, then the pedants can put the dash anywhere they like...

 

That's not my argument and I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. My "logic", as EVERYONE'S "logic" has always been Hondas are more "after-the-fact" than "here-and-now". While there were a lot of guys doing great things with Hondas and Acuras in the late 80s and early 90s, they, including the Del Sol you're defending, did not catch on until "after-the-fact". This isn't just a Del Sol thing. It's a Honda thing. About the only car that was a "here-and-now" type vehicle, were the DC2 Integra. Everything else was viewed as an economy car. This I know to be fact because I was around it all. I briefly had a Del Sol. It didn't run when I bought it but I got it with the intentions of making it run because I've always been partial to them. I still technically have it, along with a 1991 CRX and a 2002 NSX with a blown motor, sitting at a warehouse, but my other projects and my business come before my personal time. So get the facts straight before getting defensive.

Anyway, back to the original question about the CR-X. The CR-X is not only well regarded by its original owners but by second hand owners, third, fourth and fifth owners, for exactly what it was, completely stock. But at the time, there were very few options that could do what the CR-X did for the price. The CR-X wasn't perfect. It rattled, it was loud, blah blah blah. But the details seperate the great from the memorable. The other reason the Fit won't necessarily be as iconic as the CR-X is timing. The US just recently got the Fit, whereas the rest of the world has been enjoying it for quite some time. What people here will remember is the xB because, aside from the fact Scion marketed it as a blank canvas and it's weird looking, it was the first car in awhile to combine everything it had and do it all on American roads. That car is about as basic an appliance as you can get. The Fit is dynamically the better car than the xB and most of its competition, but since it came here only a year-to-year and a half before the second gen. was launched, it's regarded as just "another B-segment vehicle amongst a growing market of B-segment vehicles". Considering the rest of its company, the Fit is a great car in a sea of good cars, but it "seems" like it's behind the curve because it's still in its first gen, while others have moved onto their second or third iteration.

 

If you really care so much for the CRX you would have known that the CRX had back seats in Japan.