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Old 05-21-2008, 06:58 AM
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Well, at least I am not pushing the car, not that it hasn't crossed my mind.

Everything is relative, if you try FAS and figure the best way for you to do it then you start thinking damn, I am wasting fuel at stop lights, stop signs and every time I start the car to move up a little or start the car period. I have plenty of hills that I take advantage of FAS.

Patience is of virtue.

You do not need to speed up or even maintain a speed of say 45mph and slow down at the last second to ~20mph if you are going to make a turn. Times like that you can FAS and coast on down to 20mph make the turn and pop the clutch and keep going. I find in situations like this you can start the FAS at 45mph about ~.75-1.0 mile away and then pop the clutch after you turn. Imagine if you turn and then you are going down hill, you could just coast until you reach the desired speed depending on what it is and the traffic you encounter without using a drop of gas and increasing your mpg.
 
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by storm88000
WHOA.. I think thats going a bit too far to be honest.
I think PBH mean "ON" There's no such thing as accessory II.
There's OFF/LOCK--ACC--ON--START
 
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:57 PM
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well, on my ignition these symbols are inscribed: O, I , II, III

O = Off

I = accessory I = radio will play but the other electrical accessories will not like windows, etc.

II = accessory II = all electrical accessories work but no fuel


III = Car starts
 
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:36 PM
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II = ON/RUN
III is the starter, then it springs back to II
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pb and h

II = accessory II = all electrical accessories work but no fuel


But no power brakes/steering right?
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:02 AM
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50 mpg should be no problem. i averaged 46 once, just get behind a semi at 50 mph for like a few hundred miles flat ground on cruise control (it was a long road trip...) and that was with a massive mountain climb before i refueled at the end. 550 miles on a tank 12 gallons
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by xorbe
50 mpg should be no problem.
550 miles on a tank 12 gallons
that would be under 46

also how do you get 12 gals in the 10.8 gal bone dry tank?

BTW Did not see in mentioned but 0 position could be death, if you make that mistake.
Pretty sure it will lock the steering wheel
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:32 AM
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Paul, you are right, O = wheel lock, however, if you turn the key to II all accessories will work but it will take a sec for power steering to work.

Side note:

I notice in the morning as I coast out of my garage and in my neighbor hood, in II position, it will take like 5 sec for the power steering to work, however, I haven't even started the car yet which maybe the reason.
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:19 AM
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Ops sorry I spoke too soon.
Not only do you have to be in "O" you have to pull the key out to lock the wheel.
Way safer for some of the hyper methods..

Carry on
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pcs0snq
also how do you get 12 gals in the 10.8 gal bone dry tank?
The tank has about 1.5 gallons after E. The tank takes about 8.7 gallons to fill up from E. It also takes about 3 gallons to fill up the filler tube! Try it some time, I wound up eating my hat over that one, it's actually true.

I wanted to get to 600 miles on that tank, but I was out of town and didn't want to push it and really test how much after E in the tank... plus I've read it's not good to run too low, as the fuel cools the fuel pump in the tank. Not sure how true that is.
 

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Old 05-23-2008, 01:19 PM
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I find it hard to believe the filler neck takes up 3 gallons of gas. That is almost 1/3 of our tank.
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pb and h
I find it hard to believe the filler neck takes up 3 gallons of gas. That is almost 1/3 of our tank.
Yep. Just try it once. It takes forever, as you have to pump slowly. Remember the tank is pretty far away under the front seats. My Z4 and Jetta, the tube dumps right into the tank, and when they stop, they are totally full. But not the Fit...
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:28 PM
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Cool thread. I have been keeping an average of my mpg in my 98 LX civic. What you have to do is eliminate as many of the variables. Go to one station and stop filling after the first click. My car has averaged 41.x mpg, but because my tires are shorter, it is really about 38.x mpg average.
Looks like the FIt can do a little better. I'm seriously thinking of getting a Fit soon.
 
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:26 PM
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Negative Ghost Rider... you can't fill it THAT full

Originally Posted by xorbe
Yep. Just try it once. It takes forever, as you have to pump slowly. Remember the tank is pretty far away under the front seats. My Z4 and Jetta, the tube dumps right into the tank, and when they stop, they are totally full. But not the Fit...
No... you're wrong. Sorry. Here's my original post

I cut-n-pasted the post below
Okay... so I'm reading a lot about folks putting in 1.5-2.0 gallons extra after it clicks at the fuel pump - saying that the filler tube is holding that much gasoline. How could this be possible? Those folks must be filling up the evap canister or something else... but not the filler tube. Here's why:

Here's my calculations:
1 US gallon = 231 cubic inches
radius = 0.5*(diameter)
Volume of a cylinder = pi*(radius^2)*(length of cylinder)

To get 1 extra gallon, Diameter vs. length of filler tube:
Diameter..... Tube Length
1.00"........... 24' 6" = 1 US Gallon
1.25"........... 15' 7" = 1 US Gallon

1.5"........... 10' 11" = 1 US Gallon
1.75"........... 8' 0" = 1 US Gallon
2.00"........... 6' 2" = 1 US Gallon

Looking at the filler tube, it only looks to be 1" or 1.25" in diameter. So the filler tube would have to be 15 to 24 feet long to hold 1 gallon. I know the filler tube is long... but not THAT long.

Xorbe - Where's the 3 gallons going? Your filler tube isn't 45-72 feet long (3 gallons * 15 to 24 feet per gallon). The fuel's not going in your tank or filler tube. Sorry... but it's not.
 

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Old 06-24-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AppleMac*Fit
Xorbe - Where's the 3 gallons going? Not in your tank or filler tube. Sorry... but it's not.
I went 199 miles before the needle went under the F(ull) mark once. Obviously the gas is in there somewhere. Curiously I was just studying the Fit manual last week in prep for installing the KWSC kit. I concur that there is NOT three gallons in the filler tube, having looked at the diagrams. All that leads up from the tank to the back of the car is the filler tube and the air tube (so the air can escape as filling). (And the famed canister is on the engine side of the tank!) I think the tank simply is not full when these sensitive pumps shut off -- the air relief tube is simply blocked before the top of the tank is reached.

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Old 06-24-2008, 09:48 PM
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wow dragged this one back up lol
 
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:16 PM
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can someone EXPLAIN pulse and glide? any link to an article? id love to add this to the other fuel saving tips i use
 
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:10 PM
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Here are some pics of me drafting:




Maybe most of my increased mpg came from FAS and P&G if not drafting. It is what it is. I don't know that I need a SG if I can do better than most without one.
So you are not only drafting dangerously closely, you are also taking phone photos while it's happening? What happens if the truck makes and emergency stop? Hope there's not another big boy behind you.
 
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:12 PM
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I was careful. I don't recommend everyone doing it. Not to mention, I have pretty good reflexes and I can definitely stop quicker than they can. Oh, no one was behind me. I know the risks involved. I am a risk taker and I weigh the consequences and possibilities.

I also like to do this:

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Old 07-16-2008, 05:29 PM
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^^ Now take a picture while in the middle of doing that lol

Doesn't drafting also affect the MPG of the semi's as well?
 


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