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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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I'm relatively new to Hondas but according to a friend its been that way with other models also. I think they bottom out.
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Sadly, nothing. Some folks have adapted a Chevy air shock for use on the rear, to help with heavy loads. Then there are the bling bling Mugens and whatnot. Koni has said they have no plans for USDM Fits.


Ahhhh. Well then. Yes if the shocks are bottoming out then yes, there miiiight be a wittel problem! If that's the case then a simple shock drop kit is in order. Should be standard with drop springs IMO.

Has anyone measured the extended length and collapsed length of the Fits shocks? I'd be surprised if there isn't SOMETHING out there that would have similar configurations (length, eyelet-eyelet, post-post etc.). Just take the stock measurements, subtract the drop, and start hitting manufactures spec sheets.

If I wasn't laying here with friggin broken leg I'd be under my Fit right now. Anyone got some good pics of the stock shock mounting locations (or something close). If what I think is true with the stock location, fabing a simple drop bracket shouldn’t be too much trouble (if the mounting locations are easy to get to). Heck I might even make a few if would be interest. First things first though. Who has those stock dimensions?
 
Old Aug 2, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pcs0snq
No that's funny right their
Wasn't meant to be. But maybe you're right, the new thread would be better in the Eco section.
 
Old Aug 3, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockrover

Ahhhh. Well then. Yes if the shocks are bottoming out then yes, there miiiight be a wittel problem! If that's the case then a simple shock drop kit is in order. Should be standard with drop springs IMO.

Has anyone measured the extended length and collapsed length of the Fits shocks? I'd be surprised if there isn't SOMETHING out there that would have similar configurations (length, eyelet-eyelet, post-post etc.). Just take the stock measurements, subtract the drop, and start hitting manufactures spec sheets.

If I wasn't laying here with friggin broken leg I'd be under my Fit right now. Anyone got some good pics of the stock shock mounting locations (or something close). If what I think is true with the stock location, fabing a simple drop bracket shouldn’t be too much trouble (if the mounting locations are easy to get to). Heck I might even make a few if would be interest. First things first though. Who has those stock dimensions?


We did the shock measurements; thats how we came up with the Citation's Monroe Airlifts MA811's to handle heavy back seat loads. Its superb even after 8000 miles. And there isenormous backup with photos and helpful hints on the Suspension Post Section.
We never tried the Citation regular rear shocks but because the Citation 90-92 is heavier than the Fit those shocks should also fit and slow down the compression of the shock - and therefore tendency to bottom out - due to tighter valving.
If anyone wants to try that let us know how it works.
 

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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by doctordoom
change in fuel economy from lowering a fit is negligible if anything.
60% of engine power at highway speed is used to overcome drag from the air. Increasing aerodynamics is the one huge factor that can be improved to increase highway MPG's. Not exactly negligible as there isn't much else you can do to increase the aerodynamics. Oh and a lot of the drag is from air hitting turbulence under the car, lower car means less air going under.
 

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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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60% of engine power at highway speed is used to overcome drag from the air. Increasing aerodynamics is the one huge factor that can be improved to increase highway MPG's. Not exactly negligible as there isn't much else you can do to increase the aerodynamics. Oh and a lot of the drag is from air hitting turbulence under the car, lower car means less air going under.

And harder to push air out of the way by increasing the 'escape' path. The cross sectional area modified by improvements to the shape and thus aerodyamic drag, Cd, are not changed. It fact some experiments have shown aero drag increases by front spoilers thus forcing the air to travel further to get out of the way. The real advantage of front spoilers is increasing downforce. That benfits racing but costs gas mileage. As usual, there's no free lunch.
 
Old Aug 3, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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I hear you, but there are a lot of folks on various mpg forums (cleanmpg, ecomodder) who claim to have improved MPG by adding front air dams or lowering their cars. Air dams add frontal area but also keep air from getting under the car.

We're not really talking about spoilers or splitters, just space. Maybe that's the difference between those results and race theory?
 
Old Aug 4, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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The only concern with springs is that you would only get springs. The stock shocks won't last long with a drop. I have read that some only lasted a year after that. If you are going to go then go all the way and get a fully adjustable suspension, mucho dinero, but better all the way around. I have been looking into them for a while and megan seems to offer a fairly reasonable one. I have always thought the FIT sits up to damn high. Honda-tech.com has some good deals on suspension products in their vendor sale section. I have purchased the K-sports for my integra back in 2006 for a good price and loved them.

aww man! i was gonna order springs next week.. I hate how the base looks even higher than the sport and i was planning on dropping it.. so it isn't recommended to drop unless you get the whole suspension? like you said MUCHO dinero and i really can't afford anything else but the springs.
 
Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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I have a Beatrush front underpanel, but I bought it 'used' (never installed) and it arrived sans installation hardware/instructions. Still waiting to get enough to at least attempt an installation. I've held it up under there and it definitely should make an aero difference.
Update: it works! I averaged 37.7MPG for the 10 tankfuls before putting the Beatrush underpanel on, and 39.9MPG for the 10 tankfuls since. That ain't too shabby. Plus the front end of the car is noticeably more stable in fast corners and around buffeting beasties like tractor-trailers. I'm very pleased.
 
Old Sep 16, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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I searched around on this forum and didn't see anything that suggests dropping a Fit can increase FE. Make sense that it would. Anyone have results that prove it, with springs alone? I like the look of dropped Fits, but want increase FE performance not just looks.

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Lowering any vehicle does not in itself change the fuel efficiency. The frontal area and aerodynamic shape doesn't change.
There is some evidence that restricting the flow under the car decreases mpg by increasing the resistance of air to flow under the car and increasing turbulence, thereby decreasing mpg. A real spoiler of course avoids much of that but then a real spoiler doesn't last long on the street.
 

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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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goood point!
i'm gonna show my parents this when i wanna lower the car, my pops said he doesn't want me to mod it until the warrantee expires but i can't do that lol
it's still in their name cuz i'm a freshman in college, but i've paid over half of it already
 
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