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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Question Silent Lugging?

Can there be such a thing as silent lugging or will there always be a pinging or chugging noise? I sometimes take corners in 3rd gear. As long as I don't hear anything is everything cool?
 
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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You can take corners in 3rd gear as long as it's the right gear.

(NOTE: Not intended as a smartass answer. Whether 3rd is correct depends on your speed, how quickly you plan to accellerate, etc. I've often shifted to 2nd just out of the turn. That's the thing about a manual - YOU make the call, not a computer or speed chart. Wanna make a gentle corner and gently accellerate to maximise fuel economy? Keep it in 3rd so long as you're not lugging. Want to gun it out of the corner? Drop to 2nd. It's your drive.)
 

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 02:18 AM
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Silent Lugging?

I'm new to stick shifts. Once I took a corner in 4th. Coming out of the turn, I heard a chug, chug, chug noise. This is lugging right? As long as I don't hear the same noise am I OK?
 
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 02:31 AM
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you dont have to hear it, you should be able to feel the response from the car if theres a hestitation or resistance vs a linear acceleration
 
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 02:51 AM
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You won't hear any pinging because the ECU will back down on ignition advance to prevent it from happening and harming the engine.... You will have to down shift for ignition advance to occur to accelerate back up to speed.
 
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 03:16 AM
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Just keep practicing. It's a skill you have to learn by feel (which in reality is a euphemism for responses conditioned by experience.). It's like asking what chess piece you should move to avoid being placed in check. ;-)

t's a Honda transaxle connected to a Honda 4-pot. You're not going to hurt it before you get it all figured out.

(I STILL like the idea of learning to shift your own on a motorcycle. They let you know in no uncertain terms if you're doing it wrong, and they don't tell you what gear you're in.)
 
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 03:33 AM
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Silent Logging?

Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
You won't hear any pinging because the ECU will back down on ignition advance to prevent it from happening and harming the engine.... You will have to down shift for ignition advance to occur to accelerate back up to speed.
Texas Coyote, no pinging or chuging. I just accelerate out of the turn back to normal speed, then upshift to 4th as needed.
 
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 03:47 AM
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Silent Lugging?

Originally Posted by occam
just keep practicing. It's a skill you have to learn by feel (which in reality is a euphemism for responses conditioned by experience.). It's like asking what chess piece you should move to avoid being placed in check. ;-)

t's a honda transaxle connected to a honda 4-pot. You're not going to hurt it before you get it all figured out.

(i still like the idea of learning to shift your own on a motorcycle. They let you know in no uncertain terms if you're doing it wrong, and they don't tell you what gear you're in.)

yes, i fully understand that it's a skill that can only fully grasped thru practice.
 
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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depending on your speed you should just shift into 2nd during your turn and clutch-out slowly, then proceed to accelerate.

i think that's how most folks do it who can't drive MT cars very well. you should practice blip throttle with the side of your right foot while you brake. your goal is to be in the lower gear BEFORE entering the turn.
 
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