Just did the (slow) Idle Learn Procedure this morning. From what I know, the dealership did the one in the HELM manual. Figured it wouldn't hurt to take my time. One thing that people fail to mention is that the nut that holds the negative cable is a 10 mm metric nut. No good when I only had an imperial set of wrenches.

When I reconnected the battery, I input the radio anti theft code, and let it idle. Took 40 minutes for the first spin, 10 minutes for the 2nd , and while waiting for the 10 minutes to pass after the 2nd spin, it spun another 2 times.

As for my radio presets, my equalizer settings were NOT lost (clock was reset though)

 

Hey, good observation. Roenyc, do you usually drive in D or S mode?

 

In my personal experience, I've had the lowest MPG with Shell gas. I've tried 3 tanks of Shell, and with each tank, I've only averaged 26-27 mpg. I really think that cheapy gas gets better mileage than the majors. I've yet to try Mobil because there's only one or two Mobil stations in my city.

 

For Shell, the detergents are only in the V-power which is only availble on the premium gas. If you look closely, you will see that the regular does not have it. Very misleading.

Now Chevron has "techron" on all the various level of gas.

I was fooled by shell for a while.

 

I disagree. www.toptiergas.com (supported by GM/BMW/Toyota/HONDA) shows that the only way to achieve top tier standard is to meet the requirements on ALL grades. And if you look at the retailers, both Shell and Chevron meet the grade.

As they are the only 2 in Canada to meet it (Chevron Canada and Shell Canada are listed independently of Chevron/Shell USA), they advertise at every station here, and on TV sometimes too.

 

yes both shell and chevron are top tier because it has v-power and techron. V-power is only available on the premium so if you buy the regular gas to save cost and reason for buying the car, you wont get v-power.

At the pumps, all chevron reg/med/prem have the word techron slapped next to them. At the shell the reg/med does not have v-power slapped next to them, just the premium.

So i leave it at that. Up to the buyer to decide if it has it or not.

Will admit, i could be wrong.

 

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline Retailers

Gasoline retailers must meet the high TOP TIER standards with all grades of gasoline to be approved by the automakers as providing TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.

In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html

And from Shell's FAQ

4) What is the difference between Shell Bronze and new & improved Shell V-Power gasolines?

Shell injects an exclusive, proprietary deposit control additive (DCA) into all our gasolines at the point of distribution, which exceeds the TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline and CGSB* standards. Shell's DCA:



* Helps prevent deposits from forming on engine components
* Reduces power-robbing intake valve deposits in the fuel system
* Helps keep the intake system clean
* Helps prevent fuel related corrosion in the intake system



New & improved Shell V-Power gasoline is a premium octane gasoline and provides faster clean up of harmful intake valve deposits than Shell Bronze.

In short, all Shell grades meet Top Tier requirements, as do Chevron grades. Supposedly Shell Premium goes even further - but whether Chevron 87 is better than Shell 87, there's nothing to back that up. The only thing that we DO know is that SHell/Chevron 87 meets Top Tier, whereas PetroCanada/Esso Canada 87 does not.

 

oh i long for the good old days! gas is gas days. who would have thought i would have to think so much about gasoline when i bought a car so i wouldnt have to think about gas in the first place!

We are not supposed to use any more occtaine then what is recomended. that could be just as bad for the car. my dealer should me where he fills up, some no name station on the corner of his showroom. go figure. guess he didnt get the memo.

 

AT Sport
413 miles
Average MPG: 26 (with A/C on)
Worst MPG: 24.3 (with A/C on)
Best MPG: 27.6 (with A/C on)
Gas: Mostly fina
Tire pressure: 36 psi

I've only filled up twice. On my first tank (which I got from the dealership) I went and showed my family and friends, who all got in at 5 people at a time, pushing the wieght limit a bit, and did all brisk city driving (24.3mpg). On my second tank I had to take 5 people to the store but after that I did 70% highway driving with one other person in the car and did better
(27.6). I have to do alot of highway driving this weekend so I hope I'll get better.

 

are you guys filling it up with premium gas or what?

 

manufactuers dont actually test the epa mpg. there is a formula that they use to come up with that number. so there are a lot of other factors that can alter that number which is only an average.

 

Using a higher octane gas will not harm your car, but you won't get any higher MPG either. If anything, you get slightly better performance in situations where the octane requirement increases under load like towing or going up steep hills, etc., otherwise it's no different. I've run premium in mine since I bought it, and just the local brand too, and I get ~33mpg average for city driving -- and that's with lots of hills and me having no problem hitting 4500-5000+ rpm regularly.

MT Sport
~2500 miles
avg 33MPG
best ~33.8 (city)
worst 28.5
Gas: Get Go (local)
PSI: 32 F/R

 

In the Fit it really does not matter to put the higher octane...actually i was putting in 93 then switched to 87...not only cheaper, but the car responds better than me putting in the 93. I also get better gas mileage from the 87. Its weird cause each car has its different personalities...i average 30-33 mpg

 

you are not having any problems, i am, and after the lady at Honda America read me a page from the honda manual word for word on what gas i should be using - i will not - can not use anything not recommended in that manual. until they check it out on this coming monday i am stuck using 87 octane as recommended and a high detergent gasoline. i am still getting lousy gas mileage. but at least i can say i am following directions. ugh - i cant believe she did that, even after i told her i read that - in fact i read all the manuals. - i read them desperately searching for an answer to my mpg problems.

 

I too have been very dissapointed with the MPG of my Fit so far. I was averaging 20-22 MPG in suburban driving and 30 MPG on highway driving.

I did the ILP suggested above and I saw some improvement! Right after the ILP, I drove 240 miles on the highway. I drove on I-10 and was going between 65 and 80MPH most of the time. The fuel economy on that trip was 40.1 MPG! The next measurement consisted of suburban driving where I got 25.4 MPG. A fair improvement but I was hoping for 30+ MPG. A 33% improvement in highway MGP and about 20% improvement around town. Not bad!

Sport AT, No mods, 3800 miles.

 

Yeah, I wasn't saying not to follow the manual, just that the higher octane does no harm. In your case, definitely follow what they say so they can't make any excuses later to not fix it if they find a problem.

 

Are you not concerned that the higher octane gas will not completly burn as it burns slower, and what that can do?

 

How hard do you guys stpe on the pedal? if you floor it, the AI thinks you want to drive fast, and either downshifts or holds a gear longer.

 

I've typically been getting about 27-28 mpg (AT Sport), even after the odometer topped 8,000 miles. I'm trying to go easy on the accelerator, but we have lots of lights and lots of citizens who like driving slowly in the left lane, including on I-95. I take advantage of the Fit's nimble handling to get out of those awful clumps of traffic with pace cars in both lanes. I'm also guilty of jackrabbit starts when the light goes green. At this time of year the a/c runs all the time. I've been disappointed at the lower than expected fuel economy, and the small tank and my long commute demands more frequent stops at the pump than I thought I'd need, but seeing the extremely low numbers other people are getting was a real shock! 20 mpg!!??

 

Gear is essentially not important. The primary factor (95%) is throttle position. Less throttle (to a certain point) = better fuel efficiency. Keep that in mind instead of when vtec kicks in or any of that. Keep light on the right pedal.