You are correct. Accordguyintake posted the press release and the 6th is identical to the GEs 5th. Since the engine has a little more,power it should slightly lower RPMs nonetheless.

 

RPM x gearing x tire size = speed. How does more power behind the rpm change any of that? I could see it in an auto or a CVT where slip can happen all over the place, but with real, honest-to-God gears just doing their thing?

 

Maybe the updated engine has a higher redline.
I also read that the final drive might be lower ratio. Thus 6th gk is the same as 5th ge, but overall ratio is lower

 

final drive alone does not determine that. The gears hemselves can be changed.

A good example is Hondas old DOHC ZC gearing. it had a 3.8 final drive, yet that transmission was shorter overall then the american Civic SI trannies. Putting an SI final drive really woke it up furhter (4.25 or 4.4, depending on market of source)

 

good point. It's obvious when you lay it out like that. The better engine might give better acceleration but you are right, the RPM would be the same for the same speed with identical wheel diameter.

I'm still happy I got my GD. The only car that has me itching for an upgrade right now is the Ford Fiesta ST. 197hp! Still the GK Fit is a sweet deal for 16k.

 

I wasn't agreeing with his analysis.
I was giving an alternate explanation.
I meant if both were the same ratios, but final drive was 3.4 vs 3.8, that would drop the rpms 10% at same speed.

 

MT Woot woot.. You know what they say, "Real men use 3 pedals"

 

at this point in my life i do not ever seeing me buying an autotragic car.
Manual is the only way, a must

 

Skipping a gear on downshift is not the best way to gear down. Row through all the gears, rev matching as you go. You'll be impressed at how professional you'll look and how professional it'll sound.

 

Surely that depends upon the situation, no? It seems to me that you ought to shift (smoothly) into whatever is the best gear for the current situation, if you aren't there already; and if that's more than one gear away, so be it. Perfunctorily passing through any intermediate gears is just a waste of time IMHO, and merely makes one look and sound busy, but not necessarily professional.

 

i go 5-3 or 4-2, even 5-2 when needed. doesn't matter if you skip gears. the most wear would be the syncro's if you force it into the gate.
obviously one would blip to rev match.

 

who cares about looking and sounding professional?

If Im cruising in 5th and decide I need to pass some slow person, dropping it directly into 3rd and punching the gas takes care of the issue.


Rev matching is not to look or sound professional. Rev matching prevents damage to teh mounts and damage to the bearings inside the transmission. Any sudden lurch does damage!

 

I've only owned one automatic in my life. That was my first car, and I bought it used. Every new car I've bought was a manual transmission.


Today, I consider the manual to be a theft deterrent, since so few people know how to drive one.

 

Cannot really call a manual a theft deterrent.

 

Of course not. That'd be silly.

Carjacker caught because he couldn't drive stick-shift

Springfield police: Would-be carjackers thwarted by manual transmission

Would-be carjackers foiled in Seattle, couldn't drive stick

Nobody'd ever believe that sort of thing.

 

It's been known to happen.

Two would-be carjackers in St. Petersburg foiled by car's stick shift | Tampa Bay Times
Carjacker Foiled By Stick Shift; Unable To Drive Away - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com

Judge Recommends Car Thieves Learn How To Drive Stick

 

During the past 40 years, I've lived in a rural county that has many long steep inclines. I never even considered owning any car that did not have a manual transmission. Before that, I was into British sportscars -- 'nuff said.

Two years ago, I moved into town. Now I rarely drive out through the countryside---where all of the hills are. Around town, the manual transmission now seems like a whole lot of unnecessary work.

I am presently looking for a new Honda Fit LX with automatic. There's a first time for everything. I'm no engineer, but the CVT system seems like it would be far less slushy than past automatic transmissions. The fact that the CVT pulls substantially better MPG figures than the M/T seems to bear this out.

 

i was expecting more accord-sport MT's to be available but i cant find even one in-stock locally.

 

Saying that paddle shifters in the Honda Fit gives you the best of both worlds between a slushbox and a stick shift is like saying that having a fat wife and a laptop for porn gives you the best of both worlds between having a fat wife and having a hot wife.

I have never understood why anyone would pay MORE money to make their Fit slower, less fun to drive, less reliable, and more expensive to repair. With such a pathetic amount of power on tap our cars are slow as molasses with an auto.

Have fun staying neck and neck with a Prius (it does 9.8 0-60)

The exceptions to this argument are the elderly and the disabled (anyone physically unable to operate a clutch pedal).

 

The Fit is as slow as a Prius with the auto...the Prius does 0-60 in 9.8 seconds if I recall.

My GE is a manual and with 0-60 in about 8 seconds flat is reasonably quick.

This like a totally different car...8 seconds is respectable (think NEW 4cyl Camry).

Not to mention the well documented mpg discrepancy with the M/T- it is much better than EPA estimates. I get 33mpg mixed driving if I drive it like a go-kart most the time, 36mpg mixed with normal driving style, and 40mpg highway regularly. Calculated at the pump, not based on what the car says (it is usually optimistic by 0.5mpg or so).