Todays cars with airbags depend more on the Seat Belt to maintain body position during an accident, then ever before. the exit speed of the drivers bag is about 200mph. In fact most folks who have been involved in accidents where the bags deployed never see them. Wear the belt!!!

 

I guess I spoke too soon! Welcome to all the seatbelt nazis! I knew they would show up for the party!

I guess it is OK for people to talk about installing unaproved HID lighting, aftermarket springs never tested for ride control and safety by the car maker, tires and wheels that rub any time you go over an expansion joint in the road, even ripping out the seats (including the airbags) and replacing them with racing seats and nobody says a word! Heaven forbid a guy mention disconecting a bell in the car he owns! The righteous, holier than though seat belt commies come running out of the woodwork!


Ted, Forget about actually getting any good tech advice from this site! but if you want to buy plastic dress up parts for your Fit, you will find plenty of people to help!

 

There is no parallel to the items you listed above...HID lighting is not a safety issue to the driver. All other of these mods point to car being purpose built for high performance street or track use. I'd like to know who on this board has auto-crossed or otherwise raced on a track and purposefully chose to NOT wear the belt, or even the helmet due to 'comfort'!

I think you're missing the point...you and all others can do as they please and never wear the belt. Statistics are against you though. Some folks like gambling though....but usually w/ $ instead of lives. The rest of us will choose to use a proven saftey device and not worry about tickets/comfort/car annunciations. I don't understand the 'comfort' arguement presented by Ted. Perhaps he could shine light on this?

Anyhow, its not like no advice has been given. The only way I can see to disable the dreaded 'beep' (and I completely agree it is annoying) is to cut the wires leading to the seatbelt sensor and splice the correct ones together. You'll never be able to change the software logic that creates the aural tone, so this is probably the best (and easiest?) you can do.

 

I dunno... when your mis-aimed bling blinds some old guy in his 10-ton land yacht, he's not even going to notice his new hood ornament.

 

kps.... yeah!!
here at my workplace we need a lot of livers.... and hearts....

...just turn your head and cough...

 

I think YOU are missing the point! Aftermarket HID not a safety issue? LOL! Ever see any of those hack job cheapo kit installations? personally, I like to SEE what is in front of me, not be blinded by some kids "cool" HID kit. As for the other things you mentioned, how many millions of rims are sold each year? They are purchased the majority of the time based only on one thing, making the ride look good. Who cares if it actually helps (or hinders) the safety and performance of the car.


The basic question here is how to disable the buzzer without "fooling" the car into thinking that the belt is being worn. While it is the drivers choice on if he wants to wear the seatbelt, I for one don't feel comfortable telling him to fool the car, thus getting a full force airbag deployment rather than an adjusted-for-no-seatbelt-being-worn-reduced airbag deployment. Fooling it may be "The only way YOU can see to disable the dreaded 'beep'" but maybe some Honda tech might know a way to do it? That is why people ask questions in forums in the first place. Saying "You'll never be able to change the software logic that creates the aural tone, so this is probably the best (and easiest?) you can do." is a mighty bold statement, unless you happen to be the one that wrote the software. Wouldn't you feel foolish if it turns out that you can disable it in 30 seconds with a honda scan tool?

For all the nitwits wannabe comedians, if you can't contribute constructively to the conversation, then keep your snide remarks to yourself. They are not needed or wanted.

OK, end of rant!

 

Boy! Look what the search button turned up! A quote from one of the fine moderators of this site!


https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/show...light=seatbelt


So much for your "never be able to change the software" statement. Any Honda techs in the Chicago area want to make a few bucks? Drop me a PM!

 

...getting back on topic...

According to Toy Yoda (in this thread: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/show...9&postcount=9), in CDM cars, if you remove the #8 DRL fuse, not only does it deactivate your DRLs but it apparently also gets rid of the seatbelt chime.

I personally haven't done this (yet) but will hopefully get around to doing it tonight so i can test it.

 

Wow....looks like my previous post got some reactions. Not gonna argue off topic here about the HID lights and what not...my original post tried to point out the irrellevance of comparing misc. car mods to tampering with active saftey equipment in the car. If the car is purpose built (race), I can see justification for messing with airbags and seat belt reminders, etc. But for a daily driver, the excuse of 'I just don't want to wear a belt' just doesn't seem to justify the effort of looking to disable this thing (in my opinion).

As for my last statement about the software, I think it still holds true that none of us will ever 'change' the software...but I admit I wasn't considering the possibility of configurable parameters. So if it can be turned off through HOnda's diagnostics system, and it is likely dealers/techs are going to be unwilling to assist, are there any hacks or tuning GUIs that would potentially do this?

And for the record:

Does this: The righteous, holier than though seat belt commies come running out of the woodwork!

Qualify as this: For all the nitwits wannabe comedians, if you can't contribute constructively to the conversation, then keep your snide remarks to yourself. They are not needed or wanted.

 

Thank you sonorliteman for proving my point! You were "not considering" all aspects when you made you statements like they were the facts.

"my original post tried to point out the irrellevance of comparing misc. car mods to tampering with active saftey equipment in the car. If the car is purpose built (race), I can see justification for messing with airbags and seat belt reminders, etc. But for a daily driver, the excuse of 'I just don't want to wear a belt' just doesn't seem to justify the effort of looking to disable this thing (in my opinion)."

keep trying to justify your ignorance. You don't consider headlights, wheels and tires, and other modifications done to STREET DRIVEN VEHICLES every day safety equiptment? Yeah! OK!

Wasted enough time replying to your nonsense. Go ahead and reply with some more rationalizations of your previous statements.

Sorry mods, I will not hijack this thread any longer.

 

I think it strange that you request others to post nicely and yet you go against everything you ask of others when responding. My statements were not made out of ignorance and it now appears you are contradicting yourself from previous posts regarding the 'safety equiptment'. But hey, no sense getting wrapped around the axle on this.

But what about my question. Is anybody aware of any 3rd party diagnostic interfaces which could be used to disable/enable various configurable parameters in the powertrain module? I'm guessing that this module is independent of the ECU and that the typical Hondata-like stuff won't buy us the ability to disable the tone.

EDIT: I just went and looked at the W/D posted in the maint. thread sticky (the HTML version)...it is not specific to the USDM cars but it seems all we're dealing with is a simple switch taken to ground. Open=buckle in, Closed=no buckle. So by finding, and disconnecting (or cutting) the ground to the switch it would go open and you'd have your tone gone. I still think this would be easier and faster than finding a way to disable the feature.

 

from my stand point, i don't see the audible beep as a safety feature. i don't need anything audible to remind me to put on my seatbelt, so it seems a nag to have it beep every time i get in the car. i understand people's anger with disabling safety features, but to each his own.

if there is a way to disable it, i'd like to know...i'd also like to know anything else that would make my experience in my own car more pleasurable, i feel it is a priviledge to know, while still choosing whether to do so at my own risk or not.

 

... heck, I had a Toyota many years ago and the safety feature?!
... was if nobody in the front seats didn't put the seatbelts on: the car would NOT start! And you think this little thing about a warning light is nagging?!

 

So it looks like there are four options to disable the tone the Fit owners have:

1. Just wear your belt.
2. Find a dummy belt buckle plug.
3. Remove the ground side connection from the seatbelt switch.
4. Visit your local Honda dealer and ask them to disable OR hack the powertrain module and attempt to disable.

Does this satisfy the thread's intent? Can anyone add anything else?

To all others who don't care, just continue to wear your belt and be freed of the dread tone (like me ).

 

This is my first Honda. My Ford gave instructions on how to disable the Seat belt reminder in the owner's manual- it was a sequence of buckling and unbuckling the seatbelts- I was hoping Honda would let you do that too. I usually wear my seat belt- just hate being beeped at.

 

UGH! I hate to be the dead post reviver...BUTTTTTT....i have to. I figured that this is a simple Honda Tech solution and will be taking the car to my buddy in an attempt to disable to the seatbelt alarm.

For everyone's rhetoric about safety and your stand point about WEAR IT OR DIE, I just have to post my reason for wanting it disabled. While I live in a single family home, we have a large gated community with a centralized mailbox location. I come home from work in the evenings with my kids and go home. Shortly after, my wife comes home and I venture to get the mail. Sometimes I walk, but sometimes I drive. Now my neighborhood has speedbumps every 10 feet, so Lord help me if I get plowed by a semi. But I am a sinner...and for those 3 blocks, I don't wear the seatbelt in my 5mph commute to the mailbox. So, while I drive to the mailboxes in the 5mph zone, taking the bumps ever so slowly, get out to get the mail, then make the journey home, I hear the chime about 6 times. SO YES! IT IS FREAKING ANNOYING.

Preach all you want about "I will continue to safely buckle up" or whatever it is some are saying, but for me, at 9pm to get my mail at 5mph, I DON'T WANNA WEAR IT! If I am going 200mph and don't want to wear it, that should be my choice too...But I am not stupid either. Point is, stop pushing YOUR BELIEFS on people who choose not to wear their safety belts...be it 3 blocks to a mailbox or 500 miles in a NASCAR race.

 

The seat belt reminder should not beep if no one is sitting in the seat. Also, if I remember correctly, my seat belt reminder does not activate if I am not moving.

Don't wear a seat belt. It is just job security for me.

 

I am used to it. My 06 Civic Hybrid has the exact same thing in it. I have a mile long dirt road I drive on. after I get the mail I don't buckle up on the dirt road but the noise doesn't bother me much.

 

I'm SORRY but if it was up to me the CAR shouldn't start unless your seatbelt is placed across your chest!

 

if you do this and turn the car on, you will most liklely set a DTC
i do not think there is a way to disable this seatbelt warning, it would be deeply encoded in the main body control unit, and connected the pretensioner system as well as the air bag system,