90 Accord hard starting
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Re: 90 Accord hard starting
"Burt Squareman" <Squareman@none.com> wrote in
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> <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> My car is fuel injection. Of 3 sensors you mentioned, I could have
>> problem of one of 3 sensors or
>> 2 or all 3 that sometimes not easy to climb on uphill driving. Since
>> sensor is an electronic device, my problem could be in malfuncationed
>> electronic device.
>
>>>Pressure Air (atmospheric pressure) Sensor
>
> This is inside the cabin and well protected. Never seen one die.
You sure it's in the cabin?
>
>>>Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor
>
> This is reliable device inside the vacuum box with a vacuum hose
> running to the throttle body
Mine is mounted on a bracket on the firewall, with a vacuum line running to
the intake plenum. Did they change this for later cars?
> and electrical wires to the ECU. The
> hose can be inspected.
>
>>>Temperature (Air) Sensor
>
> This is inside the throttle body, prone to buildup crud or destroyed
> by other means.
Mine is in the intake plenum at the other end from the throttle body. It is
about as far as you could possibly get from the throttle body without
depositing the PA sensor directly into a cylinder.
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news:RLeWe.2054$5n4.53@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
> <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1126683032.529619.293780@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> My car is fuel injection. Of 3 sensors you mentioned, I could have
>> problem of one of 3 sensors or
>> 2 or all 3 that sometimes not easy to climb on uphill driving. Since
>> sensor is an electronic device, my problem could be in malfuncationed
>> electronic device.
>
>>>Pressure Air (atmospheric pressure) Sensor
>
> This is inside the cabin and well protected. Never seen one die.
You sure it's in the cabin?
>
>>>Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor
>
> This is reliable device inside the vacuum box with a vacuum hose
> running to the throttle body
Mine is mounted on a bracket on the firewall, with a vacuum line running to
the intake plenum. Did they change this for later cars?
> and electrical wires to the ECU. The
> hose can be inspected.
>
>>>Temperature (Air) Sensor
>
> This is inside the throttle body, prone to buildup crud or destroyed
> by other means.
Mine is in the intake plenum at the other end from the throttle body. It is
about as far as you could possibly get from the throttle body without
depositing the PA sensor directly into a cylinder.
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Re: 90 Accord hard starting
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
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> Mine is in the intake plenum at the other end from the throttle body.
> It is about as far as you could possibly get from the throttle body
> without depositing the PA sensor directly into a cylinder.
>
>
Shit. TA sensor, not PA sensor.
TeGGeR regrets the error.
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news:Xns96D2D22F412DBtegger@207.14.113.17:
> Mine is in the intake plenum at the other end from the throttle body.
> It is about as far as you could possibly get from the throttle body
> without depositing the PA sensor directly into a cylinder.
>
>
Shit. TA sensor, not PA sensor.
TeGGeR regrets the error.
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Re: 90 Accord hard starting
According a Honda 84-91 manual book , Atmoshereic sensor is call Air
jet controller. Amount of air getting to engine changes as the altitude
change.
The name of this device is only 84-91 model. I did not find the same
name
for Hodan Model after 92... it's funny name how they got that name.
But...I don't think this is a electronic device.
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<mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1126849823.766807.75440@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> But...I don't think this is a electronic device.
It is. See here.
http://hosted.yourimg.com/05/259/02/...icpressure.gif
> But...I don't think this is a electronic device.
It is. See here.
http://hosted.yourimg.com/05/259/02/...icpressure.gif
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Re: 90 Accord hard starting
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message news:Xns96D2D22F412DBtegger@207.14.113.17...
> You sure it [atmospheric pressure (PA) sensor] is in the cabin?
Sure. Two places I know of. Beside the
steering column and the passenger kick panel.
Modern cars is located inside the ECU.
> You sure it [atmospheric pressure (PA) sensor] is in the cabin?
Sure. Two places I know of. Beside the
steering column and the passenger kick panel.
Modern cars is located inside the ECU.
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Re: 90 Accord hard starting
mmdir2005@yahoo.com wrote in
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>
>
> According a Honda 84-91 manual book , Atmoshereic sensor is call Air
> jet controller. Amount of air getting to engine changes as the altitude
> change.
That's for a CARBURETED CAR.
> The name of this device is only 84-91 model. I did not find the same
> name
> for Hodan Model after 92... it's funny name how they got that name.
> But...I don't think this is a electronic device.
>
>
It isn't. It's an analog device used on carburetors. Cars with electronic
fuel injection do not need such devices, which is what I said before.
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news:1126849823.766807.75440@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
>
> According a Honda 84-91 manual book , Atmoshereic sensor is call Air
> jet controller. Amount of air getting to engine changes as the altitude
> change.
That's for a CARBURETED CAR.
> The name of this device is only 84-91 model. I did not find the same
> name
> for Hodan Model after 92... it's funny name how they got that name.
> But...I don't think this is a electronic device.
>
>
It isn't. It's an analog device used on carburetors. Cars with electronic
fuel injection do not need such devices, which is what I said before.
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Re: 90 Accord hard starting
"Burt Squareman" <Squareman@none.com> wrote in
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> <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> But...I don't think this is a electronic device.
>
> It is. See here.
>
> http://hosted.yourimg.com/05/259/02/...icpressure.gif
>
>
Would this have been used on '88-'89s, the the last of the carburetors?
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> <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> But...I don't think this is a electronic device.
>
> It is. See here.
>
> http://hosted.yourimg.com/05/259/02/...icpressure.gif
>
>
Would this have been used on '88-'89s, the the last of the carburetors?
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Re: 90 Accord hard starting
"Burt Squareman" <Squareman@none.com> wrote in
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> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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>
>> You sure it [atmospheric pressure (PA) sensor] is in the cabin?
>
> Sure. Two places I know of. Beside the
> steering column and the passenger kick panel.
> Modern cars is located inside the ECU.
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks. I didn't know that until now. It makes sense, though.
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> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns96D2D22F412DBtegger@207.14.113.17...
>
>
>> You sure it [atmospheric pressure (PA) sensor] is in the cabin?
>
> Sure. Two places I know of. Beside the
> steering column and the passenger kick panel.
> Modern cars is located inside the ECU.
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks. I didn't know that until now. It makes sense, though.
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