2nd update on civic rear bearing
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2nd update on civic rear bearing
Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
5 gazillion foot/pounds?
I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
Terry
and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
5 gazillion foot/pounds?
I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
Terry
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1128200092.371001.41980@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
> and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
> up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
> nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
> breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
> budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
> 5 gazillion foot/pounds?
>
> I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
> who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
> me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
>
Well, All I can say is that 130 ft-lbs undisturbed for ten years is
probably equivalent to a weld.
Try a 600 ft-lb 3/4" drive air impact wrench. If that doesn't work, give it
one or two whacks with an air hammer, then try the 600# job again.
--
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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:1128200092.371001.41980@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
> and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
> up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
> nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
> breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
> budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
> 5 gazillion foot/pounds?
>
> I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
> who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
> me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
>
Well, All I can say is that 130 ft-lbs undisturbed for ten years is
probably equivalent to a weld.
Try a 600 ft-lb 3/4" drive air impact wrench. If that doesn't work, give it
one or two whacks with an air hammer, then try the 600# job again.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:
> Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
> and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
> up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
> nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
> breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
> budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
> 5 gazillion foot/pounds?
no. did you un-stake the lock tab? i usually don't even bother with
that, and they still come off no problem. it's a normal right handed
thread. the hub is sealed, so there should be no rust problems.
>
> I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
> who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
> me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
>
> Terry
>
> Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
> and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
> up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
> nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
> breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
> budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
> 5 gazillion foot/pounds?
no. did you un-stake the lock tab? i usually don't even bother with
that, and they still come off no problem. it's a normal right handed
thread. the hub is sealed, so there should be no rust problems.
>
> I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
> who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
> me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
>
> Terry
>
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
TeGGeR® wrote:
> r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote in
> news:1128200092.371001.41980@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> > Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
> > and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
> > up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
> > nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
> > breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
> > budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
> > 5 gazillion foot/pounds?
> >
> > I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
> > who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
> > me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
> >
>
>
> Well, All I can say is that 130 ft-lbs undisturbed for ten years is
> probably equivalent to a weld.
>
> Try a 600 ft-lb 3/4" drive air impact wrench. If that doesn't work, give it
> one or two whacks with an air hammer, then try the 600# job again.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks for the advice.
I hope to get with my friend with the real air tools Sudnay afternoon.
The never to be cursed enough crankshaft bolt came off easier then
this!
Terry
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
jim beam wrote:
> r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
> > and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
> > up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
> > nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
> > breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
> > budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
> > 5 gazillion foot/pounds?
>
> no. did you un-stake the lock tab? i usually don't even bother with
> that, and they still come off no problem. it's a normal right handed
> thread. the hub is sealed, so there should be no rust problems.
>
> >
> > I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
> > who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
> > me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
+++++++++++++++
Unstaking the locking tab was a bit of a pain, but no big deal.
The dust cap was rusted into place, but the inside was clean as
a whistle. No rain forecast for a few days, but I mad a little
plexi glass cover that I RTVed into place.
I am hoping to follow TeGGeR® advice regarding a sturdy air impactor.
I had expected trouble getting the brake drum off, but I thought
I had the locking nut covered. Best laid plans and all.
Did you get the data on Gram etc?
Terry
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
>>>and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
>>>up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
>>>nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
>>>breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
>>>budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
>>>5 gazillion foot/pounds?
>>
>>no. did you un-stake the lock tab? i usually don't even bother with
>>that, and they still come off no problem. it's a normal right handed
>>thread. the hub is sealed, so there should be no rust problems.
>>
>>
>>>I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
>>>who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
>>>me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
>
> +++++++++++++++
>
> Unstaking the locking tab was a bit of a pain, but no big deal.
has it been done before that you can see? if so, maybe someone loctited
it. if loctite /was/ used, a little heat will free it up. it won't
matter for the hub bearings because they're being replaced - just make
sure you don't over-do it or you'll cook the hardness out of the axle stub.
> The dust cap was rusted into place, but the inside was clean as
> a whistle. No rain forecast for a few days, but I mad a little
> plexi glass cover that I RTVed into place.
>
> I am hoping to follow TeGGeR® advice regarding a sturdy air impactor.
>
> I had expected trouble getting the brake drum off, but I thought
> I had the locking nut covered. Best laid plans and all.
>
> Did you get the data on Gram etc?
what's gram? what data do you need?
>
> Terry
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Went ove to my das tosay, he has a pretty well equiped shop
>>>and a covered concrete driveway. Had to break the dust cap
>>>up and remove it in pices to gain acess to the hub hold on
>>>nut. His air impact drive wouldn't budge it. My 30"
>>>breaker bar, even when I added another 4' section didn't
>>>budge the D#@^ thing. Is it like the flywheel bolt?
>>>5 gazillion foot/pounds?
>>
>>no. did you un-stake the lock tab? i usually don't even bother with
>>that, and they still come off no problem. it's a normal right handed
>>thread. the hub is sealed, so there should be no rust problems.
>>
>>
>>>I am trying to reach a friend who is a big time gear head
>>>who has much heavier duty tools. Jimmy is going to laugh at
>>>me. Is that nut a reverse thread or am I just a wimp?
>
> +++++++++++++++
>
> Unstaking the locking tab was a bit of a pain, but no big deal.
has it been done before that you can see? if so, maybe someone loctited
it. if loctite /was/ used, a little heat will free it up. it won't
matter for the hub bearings because they're being replaced - just make
sure you don't over-do it or you'll cook the hardness out of the axle stub.
> The dust cap was rusted into place, but the inside was clean as
> a whistle. No rain forecast for a few days, but I mad a little
> plexi glass cover that I RTVed into place.
>
> I am hoping to follow TeGGeR® advice regarding a sturdy air impactor.
>
> I had expected trouble getting the brake drum off, but I thought
> I had the locking nut covered. Best laid plans and all.
>
> Did you get the data on Gram etc?
what's gram? what data do you need?
>
> Terry
>
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1128222270.866556.44690@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> I hope to get with my friend with the real air tools Sudnay afternoon.
>
> The never to be cursed enough crankshaft bolt came off easier then
> this!
>
You fixed your quoting! Looks good now, and is easy to read. Thanks!
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:1128222270.866556.44690@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> I hope to get with my friend with the real air tools Sudnay afternoon.
>
> The never to be cursed enough crankshaft bolt came off easier then
> this!
>
You fixed your quoting! Looks good now, and is easy to read. Thanks!
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
> what's gram? what data do you need?
>
> >
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You wrote:
"m beam wrote:
> got any links? i'm interested for analyzing some accelerometer signals.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In a prior post you wrote:
> got any links? i'm interested for analyzing some accelerometer signals.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
My response was:
Dataq offers a ~$20 data aquisition unit that includes hardware and
software.
See:
<http://www.dataq.com/194.htm>
I use a similar unit that they no longer offer to monitor and log
barometric presuure during thunderstorms and Tornado watches and
warnings. I am using a sensor that is similar to aaccelerometer.
For details see:
<http://content.honeywell.com/sensing/prodinfo/stainsteel/products/ab-...>
I have 2 0~6PSI units seperated by 200' and it is interesting to see a
preasure wave, not wind come through.
A big advantage of the Dataq unit is they operate very well on a less
then current PC. I use a P1/MMX 266MHz Toshiba Satellite laptop that
a friend was going to toss because it was "just too slow".
There are several groups that offer support and software for the Dataq
unit. This could get complex and might be better handled in Eamil.
Terry
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Re: 2nd update on civic rear bearing
r2000swler@hotmail.com wrote:
>>what's gram? what data do you need?
>>
>>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> You wrote:
> "m beam wrote:
>
>>got any links? i'm interested for analyzing some accelerometer signals.
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> In a prior post you wrote:
>
>>got any links? i'm interested for analyzing some accelerometer signals.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
> My response was:
>
> Dataq offers a ~$20 data aquisition unit that includes hardware and
> software.
> See:
> <http://www.dataq.com/194.htm>
> I use a similar unit that they no longer offer to monitor and log
> barometric presuure during thunderstorms and Tornado watches and
> warnings. I am using a sensor that is similar to aaccelerometer.
>
> For details see:
> <http://content.honeywell.com/sensing/prodinfo/stainsteel/products/ab-...>
>
> I have 2 0~6PSI units seperated by 200' and it is interesting to see a
> preasure wave, not wind come through.
>
> A big advantage of the Dataq unit is they operate very well on a less
> then current PC. I use a P1/MMX 266MHz Toshiba Satellite laptop that
> a friend was going to toss because it was "just too slow".
>
> There are several groups that offer support and software for the Dataq
> unit. This could get complex and might be better handled in Eamil.
>
> Terry
>
ah, the fft stuff? yep, got it. many thanks!
>>what's gram? what data do you need?
>>
>>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> You wrote:
> "m beam wrote:
>
>>got any links? i'm interested for analyzing some accelerometer signals.
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> In a prior post you wrote:
>
>>got any links? i'm interested for analyzing some accelerometer signals.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
> My response was:
>
> Dataq offers a ~$20 data aquisition unit that includes hardware and
> software.
> See:
> <http://www.dataq.com/194.htm>
> I use a similar unit that they no longer offer to monitor and log
> barometric presuure during thunderstorms and Tornado watches and
> warnings. I am using a sensor that is similar to aaccelerometer.
>
> For details see:
> <http://content.honeywell.com/sensing/prodinfo/stainsteel/products/ab-...>
>
> I have 2 0~6PSI units seperated by 200' and it is interesting to see a
> preasure wave, not wind come through.
>
> A big advantage of the Dataq unit is they operate very well on a less
> then current PC. I use a P1/MMX 266MHz Toshiba Satellite laptop that
> a friend was going to toss because it was "just too slow".
>
> There are several groups that offer support and software for the Dataq
> unit. This could get complex and might be better handled in Eamil.
>
> Terry
>
ah, the fft stuff? yep, got it. many thanks!
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