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Old 03-04-2013, 06:34 PM
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Honda Civic Tourer: More Forbidden Fruit To Torture Ourselves With



Although wagons get their fair share of ribbing on TTAC (mostly to poke fun at the absurd declarations of arm chair product planners), the Honda Civic is yet another product that we wonít get here due to the business case not making sense. What makes it worse is that unlike, say, the Mazda6 wagon, the compact segment already has a few hatchback/wagon entrants available in North America.

The Civic Tourer, as itís known, will go up against the upcoming VW Golf Wagon (sold here as the Jetta SportWagen) and the Ford Focus Estate (not sold here). The European Civic shares a name with the North American version and little else. And yes, it will have a diesel engine and a manual gearbox available.
Why lampoon the Mazda6 wagon and praise the Civic wagon? Surely, we must be biased. After all, thatís the default answer for any unfavorable analysis at TTAC. But itís important to note that not all wagons, and their business cases, are created equal. The Mazda6 wagon is produced in Japan by Mazda, and an unfavorable exchange rate, capacity constraints and the prohibitive cost of federalization make the business case for the wagon a non-starter.
So what about the Civic? Why canít Honda do it if Hyundai can import the European i30 as the Elantra GT? For one thing, the Elantra GT is built in the Czech Republic, where labor costs are far lower than Japan and the UK, where the Civic Tourer is likely to be built. The i30 was also designed to be sold globally from the get-go. The Civic, unfortunately, has been thoroughly localized, meaning this car has been designed with the European market in mind, and itís unlikely to leave any time soon. Once the most well known compact hatchback, Honda hasnít fielded a two box Civic in years, ceding the market to Hyundai, Ford, Toyota and just about everyone else. What a shame. This Tourer is so much more attractive than the rest of Hondaís small car lineup.


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Old 03-05-2013, 12:24 AM
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i like. it has contours akin to a Fit. would rather have the shuttle though.
 
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Looks like the newer Insights...
 
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I do not understand why Company's like Honda that really do not sell trucks would not consider wagons in the USA. If anything it probably be imported and markup as a Acura.


 

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The problem, as you put it, is the price. A Civic wagon at $22,000 looks OK The same car at $27,000 looks absurd. Yet these prices are only $5k apart! There's no way Honda can make a Civic in Japan for a similar price as making it in America or other low cost areas ... the cost of labor and parts (and the labor in those parts etc etc) is too high. So the only places they can market these cars to make money are in areas like Europe and Japan.

An Acura is a possibility; but then it'd have even more expensive content loaded on top of the Civic's platform. And for a small hatchback ... in a brand that sells in limited quantities anyway ... in a market segment that typically demands 160hp as a minimum entry ... it doesn't seem like they'd sell a lot of rebadged Civics.

Now if they could just get into their head that they ought to make some of these in Mexico and meet the Civic's pricing, I think they'd find plenty of interest :)
 

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