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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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and he made a username for those 2 failurrific posts.
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JaySmith
Given that Spoon Sports hasn't even bothered to have there website copyrighted since the 2007-2008 season surely speaks words in itself.



x2 as it's been pretty common knowledge within the scene for a number of years now that Opak Racing was the exclusive north American distributor.

who knows the last time that part of the website was updated.
SPOON OFFICIAL WEB It says on the top right corner Last Updated 2010-01-04

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Copyright (C) 2007-2008 Spoon Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
It says on the main page 2007-2009

I'm not trying to help A&J racing but the truth is what i see, is not from what you say. If its true again that opak is the only distributor then prove it. You guys saying the A&J Racing are copying spoon exhaust well prove it? Comon you can talk all day long all week long but at the end is just an assumption. I don't have proof of AJ haven't copy J's exhaust but i do have evidence that they didn't copy spoon exhaust because i am pretty sure spoon would post something like J's did for the replica exhausts.... As some of you said, Spoon has deep pocket to file a lawsuit, why not? Copying spoon exhaust and selling it as spoon should be a big problem.
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Coconutz
You guys saying the A&J Racing are copying spoon exhaust well prove it?
I (thought I) read this entire thread and I didn't see anyone say anything about Spoon knockoffs.
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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I (thought I) read this entire thread and I didn't see anyone say anything about Spoon knockoffs.
My bad, about the distributing but i've read a lot of forums and there are some other people not from this forum are talking about knock offs of spoon so sorta got mixed up.
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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Guys, what does all this yapping has to do with this? Chill guys, just wait and see how this story unfolds. We watch the news, not flame it...
 
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Guys, what does all this yapping has to do with this? Chill guys, just wait and see how this story unfolds. We watch the news, not flame it...
this all started a year ago right here on fitfreak. when junktea got his j's distributor status, he posted a thread about the letter on junichi's blog. im pretty doubtful if we will ever hear the full and honest truth to this. one side is lying and the other side isnt. its too hard to tell who is being truthful, partly because of the language barrier. i wonder if there is any message boards in kanji that are talking about this.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 01:21 AM
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^ I don't know... but even if we know the truth, then what? Class Lawsuit? Become a Hater and live in anger? Prove ourselves right one way or the other?

Either way, you spend the money already, damage has been done... its pointless to just keep flaming and stuff.

Like Illusive says, its probably just another business partnership gone sour. And both sides are just using us as pawns. If you google A&J products or J's racing product, they rank #6. Free promos~
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 05:10 AM
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^why are you so bent on making everyone stop talking about this topic? they can talk about this if they want. they just want answers and they deserve answers, like, "who is lying?" it's pretty simple.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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^ because its absolutely pointless with all these flamings? I dunno about you guys but I prefer a harmony website instead of a piss fight =\
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Lets stay on topic guys.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Here's the direct link : SALES BASES | SPOON OFFICIAL WEB

I think this information is enough to proof AJ and Spoon's relation so No more guessing. Who's spreading false info ? Who's trying to mislead the crowd to draw their customer bases ? Go figure guys.

I have a feeling that J's is doing the same thing. Why this letter was not posted on their own website instead posted on a private blog ? IMO, it's very sketchy. If I was J's , I think I will treat this matter more professionally.

If spreading false info can move all AJR existing client base to another dealer (who had bashed AJR the most on this thread) Well, I think the J's & distributor have accomplished this to a certain point
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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I knew this was true when it came up a while ago.

I bought "Js" Roll center adjusters for 250 a pair. One broke and I had to buy a second pair just to get another one.

Is there anything we as customers can get in reimbursement?
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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well i was planning on spending 2000 dollars at aj racing but i have totally put that on hold until things get settled. thats why we are talking bout this. cause some people still want to buy things but now they are wondering who to buy from... and or if it is js at fault... then what manufacture of parts to buy..
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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oh... and as far as my roll center adjuster.... it didnt come come with the red spacers... i called ajs and they said it didnt need it... well then why is it in the pic???



 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Check on their site, the ones that are listed there, didn't have the rings showed.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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When I purchase a little over a year ago they had the same pic I posted. That's when they were js dealer still. I didn't think anything of it. I just purchased from someone else but kept theirs as spair. like I said this was over a year ago. I still have it in the box it came in.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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also, when evidence like this thread keeps popping up, you have to wonder. i mean, japanese people are ruthless in business, but chinese people are cheap in business. thats why its so hard to choose a side.

S2KI - S2000 Forums -> So I got my J's overfenders in and...

as of right now, i side with j's.
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kelsodeez
also, when evidence like this thread keeps popping up, you have to wonder. i mean, japanese people are ruthless in business, but chinese people are cheap in business. thats why its so hard to choose a side.

S2KI - S2000 Forums -> So I got my J's overfenders in and...

as of right now, i side with j's.
huh, that is a very compelling thread... clearly products were a knock off and AJ-Racing was fingered as the source. I find it especially interesting that the thread did not stem from a "which hunt" but rather poor fitment and quality of a specific product.

I found this link very useful as well, it shows a number of fakes produced:
J'S RACING JAPAN
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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wish i could read it...
 
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by keepitpg
wish i could read it...
Try this link: it should be English too.
J'S RACING JAPAN
 



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