2008 Sport DIY Variable Intermittent Wiper
#1
2008 Sport DIY Variable Intermittent Wiper
I've come to the conclusion that I'd like to add a variable intermittent wiper to my 2008 Honda Fit Sport. In its absence the first setting is often too frequent for a light drizzle.
I've done some research and found several articles on others having done this (https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-non-navi.html and https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...r-upgrade.html and https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...nt-wipers.html and DIY Variable Intermittent Wiper install looks similar too).
None of these are for a 2008 Sport though, and I'm trying to figure out if there are any major differences. Can I use the directions from that first link myself and using the same wiper stalk? How can I find out?
I actually have the service manual so I can compare wiring diagrams if the other one is available, but I'm unsure how to find out if the directions for that first forum apply to my car or not. Does anyone know? And either way, in this or for future reference, how would I go about researching that to find out?
I've done some research and found several articles on others having done this (https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-non-navi.html and https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...r-upgrade.html and https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...nt-wipers.html and DIY Variable Intermittent Wiper install looks similar too).
None of these are for a 2008 Sport though, and I'm trying to figure out if there are any major differences. Can I use the directions from that first link myself and using the same wiper stalk? How can I find out?
I actually have the service manual so I can compare wiring diagrams if the other one is available, but I'm unsure how to find out if the directions for that first forum apply to my car or not. Does anyone know? And either way, in this or for future reference, how would I go about researching that to find out?
#2
Don't know if this is false hope, but saw this in a thread.
The wiper switch from the first gen. Insight has this feature and looks like it would match up with the Fit. Supposedly it would be plug and play since all the electronics are in the actual switch for the GD, it better be cause the switch costs like $80. I posted the part # somewhere on the GE variable intermittent wiper thread.
EDIT: My bad, I brain farted and was thinking front variable intermittent instead of rear intermittent. :P
EDIT: My bad, I brain farted and was thinking front variable intermittent instead of rear intermittent. :P
#3
That is interesting, but I don't entirely believe it; other solutions would indicate that at least one wire is missing for this on the FIT and would need to be added so nothing could be plug and play by that standard.
And beyond that, my broader question is, how could I find out details like that?
And beyond that, my broader question is, how could I find out details like that?
#5
the variable feature has been successfully owner-installed in several Honda models. IIRC the "controls" are all in the switch itself.
Myself, I find that I'm always playing with the speed on an intermittent anyway. So, why bother? Some people (like me) are NEVER happy...
Myself, I find that I'm always playing with the speed on an intermittent anyway. So, why bother? Some people (like me) are NEVER happy...
#6
Which is fine with me; adding one additional wire is hardly problematic, I just want some verification that a new stick and doing that will work before I put in the time, effort, and money to do it. And I can't figure out where to go to get that verification! Any help?
#10
@Mapone
This is a really cool mod!! Do you happen to know what the P/N of the part you replaced is? Just trying to get an idea of how different yours is from the US models.
I am going to hazard a guess that this part doesn't exist in the US parts catalog under any number. However, a quick google shows at least one place in the UK that lists it and seems willing to ship to the US. The only question then is whether the same part will fit the US Fits.
This is a really cool mod!! Do you happen to know what the P/N of the part you replaced is? Just trying to get an idea of how different yours is from the US models.
I am going to hazard a guess that this part doesn't exist in the US parts catalog under any number. However, a quick google shows at least one place in the UK that lists it and seems willing to ship to the US. The only question then is whether the same part will fit the US Fits.
#11
Yes, i have lived in Czech republic, which is in the middle of Europe. But how you can see, i am a 2007 USDM Honda fit (1.5 AT Sport) owner. So i installed a European Honda part into a US market car. And it woks.
Here in Czech is not problem to go to the Original Honda dealership with a US part number and make a order... Yes, it takes for example 2 weeks, beceuse the shipping takes some time... But I can wait :-) I know it bacause i ordered a rear engine mount for my US Fit.
So maybe You in USA can make a order for European part, when you have a number...
Here in Czech is not problem to go to the Original Honda dealership with a US part number and make a order... Yes, it takes for example 2 weeks, beceuse the shipping takes some time... But I can wait :-) I know it bacause i ordered a rear engine mount for my US Fit.
So maybe You in USA can make a order for European part, when you have a number...
#13
Yes, i have lived in Czech republic, which is in the middle of Europe. But how you can see, i am a 2007 USDM Honda fit (1.5 AT Sport) owner. So i installed a European Honda part into a US market car. And it woks.
Here in Czech is not problem to go to the Original Honda dealership with a US part number and make a order... Yes, it takes for example 2 weeks, beceuse the shipping takes some time... But I can wait :-) I know it bacause i ordered a rear engine mount for my US Fit.
So maybe You in USA can make a order for European part, when you have a number...
Here in Czech is not problem to go to the Original Honda dealership with a US part number and make a order... Yes, it takes for example 2 weeks, beceuse the shipping takes some time... But I can wait :-) I know it bacause i ordered a rear engine mount for my US Fit.
So maybe You in USA can make a order for European part, when you have a number...
I think our solution is Mapone's: order P/N 35256-SJD-G01 from a European seller. Thanks Mapone!
#15
I have original Vin number that FR-V from whose i used the wiper stalk. It is JHMBE57206S200144. So i called to the Honda dealership, and asked for the exact part number. They gived to me a little bit different part number. 35256-SJD-E01. I don´t know what the difference between G01/E01 is, but my wiper stalk has a E01 on the end...
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#18
I have original Vin number that FR-V from whose i used the wiper stalk. It is JHMBE57206S200144. So i called to the Honda dealership, and asked for the exact part number. They gived to me a little bit different part number. 35256-SJD-E01. I don´t know what the difference between G01/E01 is, but my wiper stalk has a E01 on the end...
I see US $204.47 (including shipping to the US, converting from GBP) from the dealer I linked above. But yeah, it is going to be expensive! But considering it should be plug-n-play and it is the only part needed, maybe it is not so bad?
#20
The solution for the Element was to add some wires to connect those extra pins to connections on the under-dash fuse panel (see the linked thread). I have no idea if a similar approach could be taken for the Fit. The Element people seemed to make reference to another timer or control module that is present on the Element that makes this possible. I don't know if this is true or not. After consulting with the Fit ETM, I can say there is no such additional module in the Fit's circuit. The Fit only has fuses, the switch module, and the wiper/washer motors.
Another possible line of investigation is that the Element solution resulted in intermittent settings that very based on the vehicle speed. On the Fit, there is no VSS input to the wiper switch, so it could be that the additional pins on the RSX/Pilot switches are simply related to VSS input to the timer (if the timer is in the switch).
Another factor in all of this is the location of the intermittent setting timer. On the Fit, the timer is shown as being in the switch module. The same would seem to be true of the FR-V. However, I found (based on the parts catalog) that there is some other control module in the FR-V related to the wipers, which would seem to contradict the interchangeability of the Fit and FR-V switches.
Over the weekend I was also able to snag a used FR-V wiper switch off of ebay from a German seller, so I will be trying Mapone's approach. At this point it seems safe to assume that the FR-V switch will not give intermittent settings based on the vehicle speed, but I can live with that. I will probably not install it until warmer months, but we will eventually get to the bottom of it!