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Old Jan 30, 2023 | 03:50 AM
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door panel "insulation" pieces under trim

hi,

After removing the door trim, to aid the installation of new speakers, I found these white pieces, only held in place by the round white plastic clips.



Does anyone know what Honda considered them to be useful for?

I've found them under both the rear doors. & expect to find more under the front door trim panels.

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Old Jan 30, 2023 | 09:40 AM
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It's been a while since I had the door panels off, but I don't remember those pads on the front doors (of a 2010 Fit Sport).
As for purpose, there may be a bit of sound deadening but I think the principal purpose is to stop rubbing and squeaking. You'll find the same sort of material under the dash, on the top of the glove box, etc.
It's also a good mouse detector, because if you get mice in the car (through the cabin air intake) they'll chew up those pads on the way by.
 
Old Jan 31, 2023 | 03:17 AM
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It's also a good mouse detector, because if you get mice in the car (through the cabin air intake) they'll chew up those pads on the way by.
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Old Jan 31, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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At least where I'm from, if you live in the country (wetlands and forests around our house) and your car is parked outside (or in my case, under a lean-to roof on the side of the garage that houses the wife's car), you will get mice sooner or later.
The Fit seems especially susceptible because of the easily accessible (to mice) cabin air intake under the cowl. I have plans to cover the hole with wire mesh but am waiting until warmer temperatures in the spring to have at least a slight chance of not breaking every piece of plastic I have to remove/reinstall during the job.
Luckily they haven't touched any wiring yet, so let's all keep our fingers crossed.
 
Old Jan 31, 2023 | 05:26 PM
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I see neighbours cats passing through, several times a week. keeping small furry snacks away

Next tuesday, kiwi time. It goes into the local honda service center to have new Iridium spark plugs & new gearbox oil done. I've already broke several clips, getting the rear door trim panels off. I intend on asking about replacement clips then.

Since mine are inside the car. Perhaps plasticine or blutack would solve the problem
 
Old Feb 1, 2023 | 06:21 AM
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Buy your clips from Amazon or Ebay. Prices at the dealer are crazy...
 
Old Feb 1, 2023 | 06:10 PM
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I've just bought 4 pack of Size PP92 from a local nationwide supercheapauto store. For$35



They had 2 sizes which I was able to try for size. PP91 & PP92. PP91 were easy to pull out, so I bought PP92.
 
Old Feb 3, 2023 | 07:33 PM
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$35?!
 
Old Feb 3, 2023 | 08:51 PM
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the $35 is for twenty clips ( 4 packs , not one pack of 4) @ $1.75 each delivered


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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 10:29 AM
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Quite expensive nonetheless...
 
Old Feb 5, 2023 | 09:51 AM
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You know, I just had all four door panels off and none of them had that insulation. I wonder if there was any rhyme or reason to which cars got it.

Does it appear stock or does it look like something that was added aftermarket?
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What year do you have? It' on the back doors and several panels under the dash on my 2010 Sport. There are molded "grappling hooks" clearly designed to hold the fabric batting in place.
 
Old Feb 5, 2023 | 10:43 AM
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2011 Sport. I've got it under the dash but not on the rear door panels. I should put something back there the next time I've got the panels off.
 
Old Feb 5, 2023 | 11:47 AM
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Are you the original owner, or could someone else have pulled the batting out? Do you see the molded pieces to hold the batting on the door panels?
 
Old Feb 5, 2023 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dheitz
You know, I just had all four door panels off and none of them had that insulation. I wonder if there was any rhyme or reason to which cars got it.

Does it appear stock or does it look like something that was added aftermarket?
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Judging by the way it's fixed in place. I believe that they are OEM.
 
Old Feb 5, 2023 | 05:39 PM
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Are you the original owner,
am the first kiwi owner, after it was imported from Japan.
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or could someone else have pulled the batting out? Do you see the molded pieces to hold the batting on the door panels?
Sorry, I don't know what you are calling batting.
 
Old Feb 5, 2023 | 06:09 PM
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Ha. We're definitely not talking about cricket.
I studied in Australia for a while and my best bud from that part of my life is from the North Island of your fine country.
I was just referring to the white bits we've been talking about, but it's sort of confusing to figure out what to call it. My mom does a lot of sewing and "batting" can refer to the insulation layer you put into a coat, or to the filling you would put into a pillow. It sort of looks like the stuff on the back of the doors.
 
Old Feb 5, 2023 | 07:26 PM
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Thanks, I now understand what batting is. This batting looks to be completely 100% Original. i.e. zero missing pieces or additions. Based on the 01-31-2023, 03:40 AM comment from Drew21 above, they could be As for purpose, there may be a bit of sound deadening but I think the principal purpose is to stop rubbing and squeaking. You'll find the same sort of material under the dash, on the top of the glove box, etc.

Whatever they were put there for. When I am able to & get time to. I'll be placing some small dynamat offcuts under them, to help eliminate undesirable noises. I read a youtube offering last night, where a pro-installer did that & sealed them back in place with hot melt glue.

Currently I'm slowly researching cheaper alternatives to reduce noise created by the outer door panels. & the floor. Mostly because I cannot afford to do everything in dynamat. & partly because I suspect that once it's all finished, my ears will never notice the alleged difference.
 
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