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Old May 30, 2024 | 07:23 PM
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Help: Transmission Issues

I'm posting this here and in the SoCal Forum because I am no longer receiving Notifications from Fitfreaks and maybe you are not as well.

1) My transmission is making a noise when I disengage the clutch. I hear it in 1st and 2nd gear. It sounds like a brief whur. It occurs just at the engagement point. I do not hear it at idle in neutral when I step on and off the clutch pedal. Is this a bearing going bad?

2) Who is the best Honda mechanic in Los Angeles?

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Old May 31, 2024 | 11:17 AM
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Throw out bearing would be my first guess. Best of luck, Clay
 
Old May 31, 2024 | 12:46 PM
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Throw out bearing would be my first guess. Best of luck, Clay

Thanks, Clay.


If they have to go in to replace the throw-out bearing, would that be a "might as well replace the entire clutch" moment?
 
Old May 31, 2024 | 01:26 PM
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Most of the cost of changing the throw out bearing is labor right? I would change them both and change the tranny fluid too and check for leaks there. You may want to change the shaft seals on the tranny at the same time when you have it out of the car too. You could do it yourself if your arms are still strong enough. I'm old and exercise but would be unsure of having the body strength to replace a manual tranny without a jack. Best of luck, Clay
 
Old May 31, 2024 | 02:27 PM
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Clay is absolutely right. Removal and re-installation of the transmission is labor intensive so it would be wise to replace the clutch at the same time. Also consider replacing the pilot bushing located in the center of the rear of the crankshaft at the same time- That bushing is press fit into the end of the crankshaft and supports the input shaft of the transmission.

Personally, I would also suggest using an oem Honda replacement throwout bearing, a Honda replacement pilot bushing and Honda brand trans fluid as well. Good luck with the job.
 
Old May 31, 2024 | 09:54 PM
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@56chevydan and @claycolvin Thanks, gents. I do appreciate the feed back.


I'm a few weeks past my "Sell By" date . . . too old to attempt my first clutch replacement with hand tools in a carport of an apartment building. So, I'll have to find a guy.

It sounds like you are advising to do a complete clutch replacement, and that's fine by me. I just need to be absolutely clear about what a "complete clutch replacement" entails, including seals (as you mentioned) and (for example) flywheel resurfacing. In other words, I need a complete list of parts.

Is there a clutch replacement kit that I could order? This diagram does not seem complete.

@56chevydan Is "pilot bushing" the same as "pilot bearing"?

This weekend, I'll study up on the Service Manual and google up some parts. On Monday, I'll start shopping for a mechanic.

Please feel free to add more information to this thread. I value your guidance.



 
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Sounds like a good plan. Best of luck. Clay
 
Old Jun 1, 2024 | 11:13 AM
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Now that I think about it, I did change the pilot bearing (center of flywheel) when I did the clutch on my old Nissan truck. It had a solid pilot bearing and I needed a slide hammer to remove it for replacement. Seals for the gearbox look easy to change and cheap in the Haynes book. So you need a pilot bearing, clutch assembly, seals and throw-out bearing I think. Best of luck, Clay
 
Old Jun 1, 2024 | 12:27 PM
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@claycolvin Thanks, Clay.

I'm not seeing a page in the Honda Service Manual for Clutch Replacement, but I will continue to look.

When you use a phrase like "clutch assembly," what are we talking about?
 
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@claycolvin Thanks, Clay.

I'm not seeing a page in the Honda Service Manual for Clutch Replacement, but I will continue to look.

When you use a phrase like "clutch assembly," what are we talking about?
The clutch assembly is the flywheel, pressure plate and clutch disc. In your case it also sounds like you need to add the throwout bearing and pilot bushing/ bearing also. You should be able to re-use the flywheel bolts and pressure plate bolts. As far as the flywheel goes, I'd probably stop by a good automotive machine shop to find out the cost of resurfacing it. Compare the re-surfacing cost to the price of a new flywheel. If the cost is within say $75.00, I'd go with a new flywheel. If you can find an inexpensive clutch alignment tool, it would be very helpful to align the clutch disc before the trans re-installation.
 
Old Jun 1, 2024 | 03:39 PM
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I don't think I saw it mentioned, but consider the engine rear main seal for replacement while you're in there.
​​​​​ Similar kind of job... Small cost for the part, lots more for labor (if done separately)

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Old Jun 1, 2024 | 07:37 PM
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I just changed the clutch itself on my old truck. The clutch itself is made of several parts assembled into a clutch. Change the flywheel too if you want. Mine looked ok and the truck was old and tired. Crankshaft seal too sounds good if you can get at it easily. I've never dissasembled a fit to know one way or another. Beginning to sound like rebuilding your drivetrain? Not really. Just a few bits to change when it's all apart. Best of luck, Clay
 
Old Jun 1, 2024 | 09:16 PM
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@claycolvin and @zcargo You guys are doing great . This is really helping. Keep it coming.

I won't be doing the job myself, so if I want things changed out, I have to put it in the work order. For example, I won't be able to inspect the condition of the seals as I am going along, so feel free to suggest as many seals as might be relevant. I wish there were a page in the Service Manual that showed all parts and seals. If the rear main seal is not part of a standard clutch replacement, then I am going to have to give specific instructions to have it replaced.


EDIT: I must correct myself. Clutch Replacement: Service Manual 12-14 to 12-20.
 

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