WTF? $1,000 "Market Adjustment" fee????
yeah i don't know why people are giving him such a hard time because he doesn't like the idea of spending another grand on his car purchase. you can break it down however you want, but it's still $1000...
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Don't pay a 1k for that BS thing they ask. when I bought my fit a year a go at first I went to DIAMOND BAR HONDA and they ask for $2500 market BS adjustment I said no I ain't paying for that so I drove off and look for another dealer then I got to robertson honda in NOHO and just paid MSRP. so search some more, there will always be a fit it might not be now but you'll find one eventually.
Ya it is still 1000 dollars and ya i will break it down how ever i want.
I can begg for 2 dollars and 70 cents a day.
hell i can turn in soda cans for 2.70 a day.
1000 dollars when financing is not a lot.
Interest rates dont count as that is all on u!
ohh and be sure next time your gas goes up u all protest outside and not drive your fits cuz the concept is total bs.
Not giving him a hard time just trying to help him relize his dreams are not so far off. Its everyone that say ohh its his money he can do what he wants or 1000 is a lot blah blah blah is the ture debby downers in the thread.
I can begg for 2 dollars and 70 cents a day.
hell i can turn in soda cans for 2.70 a day.
1000 dollars when financing is not a lot.
Interest rates dont count as that is all on u!
ohh and be sure next time your gas goes up u all protest outside and not drive your fits cuz the concept is total bs.
Not giving him a hard time just trying to help him relize his dreams are not so far off. Its everyone that say ohh its his money he can do what he wants or 1000 is a lot blah blah blah is the ture debby downers in the thread.
The not eating out once a week is not being done to "buy a car", it is being done to pay an extra $1,000 for a car. The guy is already going to "buy the car", at MSRP no less which already has a built in profit for the dealer. Why should he be forced to sacrifice $1,000 more so the dealership can squeeze another grand out his pockets?
For that extra $1,000 dollars he get NOTHING in return, nothing zip zada, except of course a higher payment if he is financing. The dealer however gets an extra $1,000, how sweet.
Originally Posted by carramod
I use to sell cars and i never understood why this broke deals so much. Stope eating out 1 night out of the week and theres your 20 bucks a month and more.
And i dont let anything stand in the way of my dreams and neither should u
And i dont let anything stand in the way of my dreams and neither should u
It's the law of supply and demand. The supply is going to be short for the forseable future. Just because fuel prices are dropping now, let something else happen in the middle east and we'll be right back to $4-$5 a gallon or more average again. Then let's see if $1000 over MSRP will buy it. Then again, maybe you are all correct, maybe all the dealers out there are going to be happy with just making the $600 or so front end profit and all the salesman out there are going to be falling all over each other to make a mini ($100) commission to sell this car for less than the short supply deams it will bring. In all seriousness, if he does find one that will sell him the exact car he wants for MSRP I think he will be extremely lucky. Didn't we see dealers asking $2K-$3K over MSRP a few months ago on remaining 08's? If the dealers didn't think people will buy it for what ever they ask for it, they would lower the price. Has anyone ever thought that the dealers are marking it up a $1000 to discount it to MSRP so the customer feels like he got a deal? So paying MSRP will sit better with them?
BTW Fitlurker, .67 X 30 = 20.10 X 60 (the average car loan today) = 1206.00 including iterest for 5 years (assuming he has $hitty credit and can't get better than 9% or so interest rate). If he is like the average American and only keeps his car for 3-3 1/2 years it only comes to 725 - 845.
I'll bet more than a few on this forum pi$$ away 3 times that on booze/lottery tickets/pay per view porn/cigarettes...etc... in a year, let alone on 4 - 5 years and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Just my $.02
BTW Fitlurker, .67 X 30 = 20.10 X 60 (the average car loan today) = 1206.00 including iterest for 5 years (assuming he has $hitty credit and can't get better than 9% or so interest rate). If he is like the average American and only keeps his car for 3-3 1/2 years it only comes to 725 - 845.
I'll bet more than a few on this forum pi$$ away 3 times that on booze/lottery tickets/pay per view porn/cigarettes...etc... in a year, let alone on 4 - 5 years and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Just my $.02
Last edited by Cosmo; Aug 23, 2008 at 02:53 AM.
Agreed ProMed, not worth it to overpay when there definitely are other dealers out there. I would suggest getting quotes from all the dealers in around a 100 mile radius from where you live. You're bound to get MSRP at least from shopping around like that. There are many buyers' guides around with tools to help you do this, like edmunds.com. Hell even if you have to go 2-300 miles away you're still not paying an extra grand.
Don't settle for this unless it is an urgent matter and you absolutely can't find another dealer selling for cheaper.
Don't settle for this unless it is an urgent matter and you absolutely can't find another dealer selling for cheaper.
That sucks man, Im with the rest of the guys, go shop it until you get the fair price. I just put my deposit down yesterday and am garunteed to pay msrp. I know I have to wait until like november or late october for my car, but I'm getting the color I want and no 16 year old kid will be test driving it at all. You just have to be patient if you really want it. Other wise buy a civic. They just had a minor model change and there will be more of those on the lot.
It's the law of supply and demand. The supply is going to be short for the forseable future. Just because fuel prices are dropping now, let something else happen in the middle east and we'll be right back to $4-$5 a gallon or more average again. Then let's see if $1000 over MSRP will buy it. Then again, maybe you are all correct, maybe all the dealers out there are going to be happy with just making the $600 or so front end profit and all the salesman out there are going to be falling all over each other to make a mini ($100) commission to sell this car for less than the short supply deams it will bring. In all seriousness, if he does find one that will sell him the exact car he wants for MSRP I think he will be extremely lucky. Didn't we see dealers asking $2K-$3K over MSRP a few months ago on remaining 08's? If the dealers didn't think people will buy it for what ever they ask for it, they would lower the price. Has anyone ever thought that the dealers are marking it up a $1000 to discount it to MSRP so the customer feels like he got a deal? So paying MSRP will sit better with them?
BTW Fitlurker, .67 X 30 = 20.10 X 60 (the average car loan today) = 1206.00 including iterest for 5 years (assuming he has $hitty credit and can't get better than 9% or so interest rate). If he is like the average American and only keeps his car for 3-3 1/2 years it only comes to 725 - 845.
I'll bet more than a few on this forum pi$$ away 3 times that on booze/lottery tickets/pay per view porn/cigarettes...etc... in a year, let alone on 4 - 5 years and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Just my $.02
BTW Fitlurker, .67 X 30 = 20.10 X 60 (the average car loan today) = 1206.00 including iterest for 5 years (assuming he has $hitty credit and can't get better than 9% or so interest rate). If he is like the average American and only keeps his car for 3-3 1/2 years it only comes to 725 - 845.
I'll bet more than a few on this forum pi$$ away 3 times that on booze/lottery tickets/pay per view porn/cigarettes...etc... in a year, let alone on 4 - 5 years and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Just my $.02
And for the record, I'd rather pay $1000 to watch PPV porn and get my rocks off than get fck'd in the a$$ by a dealer trying to make a quick buck.
lol thats hella funny but yea i wouldnt wanna pay that extra 1k mark up i would say to them well i'll just pick up a versa and modd the hell out of it with the extra 3k i would have. see what they say.
It's the law of supply and demand. The supply is going to be short for the forseable future. Just because fuel prices are dropping now, let something else happen in the middle east and we'll be right back to $4-$5 a gallon or more average again. Then let's see if $1000 over MSRP will buy it. Then again, maybe you are all correct, maybe all the dealers out there are going to be happy with just making the $600 or so front end profit and all the salesman out there are going to be falling all over each other to make a mini ($100) commission to sell this car for less than the short supply deams it will bring. In all seriousness, if he does find one that will sell him the exact car he wants for MSRP I think he will be extremely lucky. Didn't we see dealers asking $2K-$3K over MSRP a few months ago on remaining 08's? If the dealers didn't think people will buy it for what ever they ask for it, they would lower the price. Has anyone ever thought that the dealers are marking it up a $1000 to discount it to MSRP so the customer feels like he got a deal? So paying MSRP will sit better with them?
BTW Fitlurker, .67 X 30 = 20.10 X 60 (the average car loan today) = 1206.00 including iterest for 5 years (assuming he has $hitty credit and can't get better than 9% or so interest rate). If he is like the average American and only keeps his car for 3-3 1/2 years it only comes to 725 - 845.
I'll bet more than a few on this forum pi$$ away 3 times that on booze/lottery tickets/pay per view porn/cigarettes...etc... in a year, let alone on 4 - 5 years and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Just my $.02
BTW Fitlurker, .67 X 30 = 20.10 X 60 (the average car loan today) = 1206.00 including iterest for 5 years (assuming he has $hitty credit and can't get better than 9% or so interest rate). If he is like the average American and only keeps his car for 3-3 1/2 years it only comes to 725 - 845.
I'll bet more than a few on this forum pi$$ away 3 times that on booze/lottery tickets/pay per view porn/cigarettes...etc... in a year, let alone on 4 - 5 years and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Just my $.02
FitLurkerNoMore
Apparently there are some well off fit owners that would part with $1,000 for no reason. If that is the case, you can surely send me a grand via paypal.
LOL... I'm somewhat sympathetic, but as a Canadian the MSRP on our Fit is already several thousand dollars above yours (2008 US Sport trim is $15270, ours is $19580!), and we get hit with a $1295 "pre delivery inspection" fee which no one has successfully negotiated away.
That all means squat since you're comparing against what other Americans are paying, but I still get to shake my head and chuckle
That all means squat since you're comparing against what other Americans are paying, but I still get to shake my head and chuckle
when i was selling cars we were always told to break the price down into smaller numbers eaiser to relate to. Like i said above not going out to eat 5 times out of the week only go like 4. I mean if u just cut back a little and i mean a little on some of the other things u will be amazed on how much money can show up in your wallet ready to buy bigger and better things.
It really does come down to how you choose to look at things. Apply this to all areas of life and everything really begins to change.
Mmmmh...maybe I should rethink that BMW!
Wow! That really puts it in perspective!!
Wow, I am really surprised! So many of you guys are a car salesman's dream customer. Just roll over and get out the checkbook! Never, and I mean NEVER let a salesman know the amount of the monthly payment is all you're interested in.
As far as the "market adjustment", I wonder if this same dealer would be willing to take $1,000 off the price of a Ridgeline, since the market for big SUVs is in the crapper.
As far as the "market adjustment", I wonder if this same dealer would be willing to take $1,000 off the price of a Ridgeline, since the market for big SUVs is in the crapper.



