2011 Honda Fit - New Info
#41
Overall, VSA prevents larger cars from rolling over, thereby decreasing the potential for a fatal injury. As far as claiming that other people on the road rely on it and whatnot; I'm not really with you on that one. If anything, it's the overall performance specs of cars these days, and the stupidity of the drivers.
The horsepower and vehicle technology wars have put a LOT of dumbasses in a rocket. I see clueless looking women driving 335is left and right around here. That's a serious effing car, capable of getting anyone short of being a really great driver into a lot of trouble; vsa engaged or not.
To add to that, I just think people are becoming worse drivers all the time due to a number of societal factors. Gabbing on cell phones, txting, slurping down tons of caffeine to keep up with their busy lives, of which they are constantly speeding around in traffic to accommodate - all the while, some are filled with road rage from being tweaked out on sugar, and experiencing sleep deficit due to playing Xbox til 3am every night. Kinda makes sense when you look at the big picture. haha /rant
The horsepower and vehicle technology wars have put a LOT of dumbasses in a rocket. I see clueless looking women driving 335is left and right around here. That's a serious effing car, capable of getting anyone short of being a really great driver into a lot of trouble; vsa engaged or not.
To add to that, I just think people are becoming worse drivers all the time due to a number of societal factors. Gabbing on cell phones, txting, slurping down tons of caffeine to keep up with their busy lives, of which they are constantly speeding around in traffic to accommodate - all the while, some are filled with road rage from being tweaked out on sugar, and experiencing sleep deficit due to playing Xbox til 3am every night. Kinda makes sense when you look at the big picture. haha /rant
#43
To add to that, I just think people are becoming worse drivers all the time due to a number of societal factors. Gabbing on cell phones, txting, slurping down tons of caffeine to keep up with their busy lives, of which they are constantly speeding around in traffic to accommodate - all the while, some are filled with road rage from being tweaked out on sugar, and experiencing sleep deficit due to playing Xbox til 3am every night. Kinda makes sense when you look at the big picture. haha /rant
Take my nephew for example. When he lane changes, he uses the "if I can see them in the mirror" rule. The problem is, he's not using the (more) CORRECT version, "if I can see them in my CENTER rearview mirror". So when he lane changes, he judges based on the side mirror, and ends up cutting WAY too close to other cars. We were traveling in a group of cars, he and I were driving two separate vehicles and that's what he did to me. All I could think was, "I'm gonna smack this boy upside the head when we stop." I didn't, at least, not physically.
There was something else he did, though I don't remember what it actually was, I remember that he did it because I, and other older family also did it. It was something fairly simple, that he made MUCH more dangerous because he didn't look BEFORE doing it. I think it might've been turning right on a red. You can imagine how pissed I was, sitting in the car, when he did that with cars STILL approaching.
Another example of "common sense"... Your direction of travel is opposite of the cars parked on both sides of the road, you get to a traffic light controlled intersection, but there's no lights facing you. I understand there are assholes that don't care about one-ways... but what do you say to the people that are sitting at the intersection facing the wrong way on a one-way, WAITING for "their" green light?!? Oh, in this particular intersection, there are TWO one-way signs (one on each side of the road) that are plain as day, if the driver would just look to the left or the right while "waiting."
Some of the same people that buy Volvo for its "safe" reputation, but drive it stupidly. I suppose it would "help" in a case of an accident, but really, the driver probably could avoid getting t-boned by a semi if the just didn't run the red light in the first place.
Last edited by Goobers; 08-17-2010 at 04:49 PM.
#44
I've owned a few cars with traction/stability control systems. And I can totally relate to those that have had the system actually work AGAINST them, in certain situations. (i.e. pulling out on gravel/snow covered roads). However, it really depends on the trac/vsa system. On my older 4Runner (2002), the trac system was HORRIBLE. Had countless times where I was crawling across the road with traffic coming at me both ways. Got rid of that thing after a year. However, the newer Toyota's SUV's had much better/aggressive trac systems where that has not been an issue. My current Toyota SUV has had no problems with this (although it's full-time 4WD) and friend's newer gen 4Runners also has not had this issue. I am hoping it's the same thing for the new Fits.
I think it's a great system and the stats support it. Some say it's the best safety innovation since seat belts.
I think it's a great system and the stats support it. Some say it's the best safety innovation since seat belts.
#45
Yes...
For those that think that ESC is not needed on this car, see the EURONCAP video testing the Fit with and without ESC:
YouTube - Euro NCAP | Honda Jazz | 2009 | ESC test
The difference is quite dramatic. Without ESC, the Fit loses directional control and nearly rolls over.
YouTube - Euro NCAP | Honda Jazz | 2009 | ESC test
The difference is quite dramatic. Without ESC, the Fit loses directional control and nearly rolls over.
#49
....especially when the competition is thousands less too, not to mention a package tray for the back, standard on the Fiesta costing waaaaay less and you've gotta pay $120 to get one on this car, shouldn't that be vise versa
The t/c makes sense as standard and I could never understand why t/c and nav were tied together, goofy!
The t/c makes sense as standard and I could never understand why t/c and nav were tied together, goofy!
#51
....especially when the competition is thousands less too, not to mention a package tray for the back, standard on the Fiesta costing waaaaay less and you've gotta pay $120 to get one on this car, shouldn't that be vise versa
The t/c makes sense as standard and I could never understand why t/c and nav were tied together, goofy!
The t/c makes sense as standard and I could never understand why t/c and nav were tied together, goofy!
#52
Bang & Olufsen is very high end and thus only (or usually) found in very high end cars.
#53
New info for the 2011 Honda Fit (via vtec.com website):
Now standard for the Fit Sport:
• Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) (previously available only on Navigation-equipped models)
• Floor mats (previously an accessory option on all trims)
Now standard for the Fit Sport:
• Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) (previously available only on Navigation-equipped models)
• Floor mats (previously an accessory option on all trims)
#54
VSA works great on the Fit. We do a lot of night driving long distance out in the country. Wait until you have to swerve to avoid some critter that ambles out onto the road. I know the VSA computer can think faster than I can (and it has). You steer, it cuts power, the ABS pump runs, it does its thing, and you're good to go. No drama. Guess that makes me one of the poor drivers some of you write about. I'd never buy another car without it, though.
When the snow is deep, turn it off.
Cheers.
When the snow is deep, turn it off.
Cheers.
#55
I remember B &O used to be very high end a long time ago, but I have not kept up with stereo equipment, so not aware if it still is. I thought they could be making some mass produced cheapie audio systems for cars now. Who does manufacture the audio system in the Fit? Is it the same manufacturer for all models?
Last edited by sooznd; 09-08-2010 at 10:54 PM.
#56
Consumer Reports on Stability Control
Wow, I'm surprised to learn how many people don't seem to appreciate the importance of stability control. According to Consumer Reports, stability control is the most important safety feature behind seatbelts and can save up to 10,000 lives. Consumer Reports made a couple of videos demonstrating the effectiveness of stability control:
5th Gear also made a video demonstrating the effectiveness of stability control:Please watch these videos and share your opinion, thanks.
5th Gear also made a video demonstrating the effectiveness of stability control:Please watch these videos and share your opinion, thanks.
#57
I remember B &O used to be very high end a long time ago, but I have not kept up with stereo equipment, so not aware if it still is. I thought they could be making some mass produced cheapie audio systems for cars now. Who does manufacture the audio system in the Fit? Is it the same manufacturer for all models?
Base & Sport
TUNER ASSY. (41WX4) (ALPINE) (FOR WARRANTY REPAIR, REFER TO S/B 06-001/PIB:A06-0001)
Navi
NAVIGATION UNIT (AVN-DVD)(COO) (ALPINE) (FOR WARRANTY REPAIR, REFER TOS/B 06-001) (SUPERCEDED)
replaced by:
NAVIGATION UNIT (AVN-DVD)(COO) (ALPINE)
39540-TK6-305ZA vs 39540-TK6-315ZA
#58
VSA is the current new thing. Some of the posts in the forum seem to imply that good or skillful drivers don't need it.
I say everyone who thinks it isn't necessary should go test drive a car with it installed and swerve on dry pavement. It takes all the drama out of emergency maneuvers. You steer, it does the rest.
Cheers.
#59
I agree,
I've been putting off buying a new Fit Sport because of Honda Canada's inexcusable decision to not offer stability control here in Canada. I've sent them countless emails in the hope that I can get through to these guys on how important stability control is, especially in winter. If you want stability control, let Honda Canada know about it!
Take care.
I've been putting off buying a new Fit Sport because of Honda Canada's inexcusable decision to not offer stability control here in Canada. I've sent them countless emails in the hope that I can get through to these guys on how important stability control is, especially in winter. If you want stability control, let Honda Canada know about it!
Take care.
Last edited by fit.sport; 09-11-2010 at 06:31 PM. Reason: Typo
#60
I had traction control on my 04 BMW 330XI, I never used it once, with that said I wouldn't mind having it on my car. When I purchased my car a little over 4 weeks ago I didn't know vsa would be standard on the 2011's, there were probably rumors of it though. Anyways if VSA means alot to you then you should wait and get a 2011, but if it's not that important to you then I would shop around get a killer deal and buy a 2010, before the price goes up and the incentives go away.