Honda announces recall
#661
Not necessarily, just because they aren't broken doesn't mean they aren't the flawed parts that are liable to break in the future. With this recall Honda is attempting to proactively replace these springs, prior to their failure.
Last edited by nfs480; 03-28-2011 at 05:51 PM. Reason: Grammar
#662
Keep in mind that this recall does not involve 'finding' broken springs.
It's all by the numbers, stamped part numbers and vehicle VIN numbers. A vehicle qualifies for the recall by VIN number first. Then the tappet cover is pulled and the rocker assembly number is looked at. If this is in the recall range the work is done and the primary VIN plate is stamped to indicate the work was done on that vehicle.
Honda is very clear as to where the defective springs are.
There's no inspecting the springs to be sure they are good or bad.
A vehicle qualifies for the recall.
Honda has issued this to repair a known problem. Not sure of their protectiveness, but it is certainly in their interests to fix problems they know exist.
It's all by the numbers, stamped part numbers and vehicle VIN numbers. A vehicle qualifies for the recall by VIN number first. Then the tappet cover is pulled and the rocker assembly number is looked at. If this is in the recall range the work is done and the primary VIN plate is stamped to indicate the work was done on that vehicle.
Honda is very clear as to where the defective springs are.
There's no inspecting the springs to be sure they are good or bad.
A vehicle qualifies for the recall.
Honda has issued this to repair a known problem. Not sure of their protectiveness, but it is certainly in their interests to fix problems they know exist.
#663
i had the recall done today (open road honda, edison, nj).
they replaced the LMS.
the car sounds the same and feels the same. no sign of any damage or changes whatsoever.
they did not remove the cowl.... so it's fine.
they replaced the LMS.
the car sounds the same and feels the same. no sign of any damage or changes whatsoever.
they did not remove the cowl.... so it's fine.
#664
ive wondered all along what are the chances of the "faulty" LMS failing during the lifetime of any given car. are we talking 1 in 10? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000? i dont know.
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#665
See your point - if a spring was broken the car would have been brought in for repairs is what I'm thinking. Some one or two have experienced the spring failure on the forum. Little bits of spring steel flying around the rocker arms will cause problems.
No idea - worldwide - how long [number of failed springs] it took for them to issue the recall, or how many have failed since it's been issued. Interesting statistics I'll bet Honda will protect. I think I read somewhere it all started in Asia.
I would guess any mechanic would be interested in looking at those little springs just to see if they could tell something was up. I know I would - and certainly after doing a hundred or so cars.
No idea - worldwide - how long [number of failed springs] it took for them to issue the recall, or how many have failed since it's been issued. Interesting statistics I'll bet Honda will protect. I think I read somewhere it all started in Asia.
I would guess any mechanic would be interested in looking at those little springs just to see if they could tell something was up. I know I would - and certainly after doing a hundred or so cars.
#666
anyway, i'm glad this is now behind me without incident.
my dealer told me over and over not to worry about it (the recall repair)... and it appears they backed up their word.
#669
I understand this, but the car had a distinct "ticka-ticka" noise that wasn't there before. I took it back and asked the service manager's opinion of it. He listened for 5 seconds and said "that's not right". He had me bring the car back the next day, and they readjusted the valves. All is well now. the engine sounds like it did when it was new.
Actually, valve clearance will decrease due to valve seat wear, but at the same time, wear of the cam lobes, rocker arms, rocker arm pivots and valve stems will work to increase the clearance. The result is, depending on design and other factors, valve clearance may either increase or decrease over time, depending on the relative rate of wear of the various parts involved.
Actually, valve clearance will decrease due to valve seat wear, but at the same time, wear of the cam lobes, rocker arms, rocker arm pivots and valve stems will work to increase the clearance. The result is, depending on design and other factors, valve clearance may either increase or decrease over time, depending on the relative rate of wear of the various parts involved.
#670
valve noises
holy sh...... see my post 128 on the other thread.
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#673
Guys, before this Saturday I was one of the people who didn't understand those who are paranoid about this recall. That all changed when I took my wife's Fit for the recall to Rosen Honda in Gurnee IL. I dropped the car off in the morning at 8 am and went to pick it up at 5 pm. When I got in everything was all right. Did not notice any difference in engine sound. I did smell oil coming in through the vents when I turned on the heat. I though that this will air out in a few minutes. However, at the first traffic lights I saw smoke coming out from under my hood and the blue color and smell of oil. I did a u turn and drove straight to the dealership, parked it right in front of their main entrance, turned off the engine and went to get some help. The smoke was still coming out but I didn't want to get burned so I did not attempt to open the hood. They said that most likely some gasket wasn't seated properly. I just hope that they didn't do any permanent damage to my wife's car
They are supposed to look at it on Monday and call me since service was closed already. I will update you once I hear back from the dealer, but I dont have a way to tell if they did any permanent damage. Any ideas of how I can protect myself in case problems develop later?
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#674
Lol they probably forgot to reattach the PCV line or they tried to reuse the valve cover gasket, that's about all it could be otherwise the smoke would be coming out your tailpipe instead. Nothing to be scared about all easy fixes.
#675
I had a turbo oil return line where no matter how much I re-tightened the compression fittings (-10AN with SS line) I would still get a drip out of the CHRA and onto the downpipe which made for a nice sweet smokescreen if I turned the fans of.
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#677
I called honda just to check it out. I live in NY with a 2010 sport. Honda states my car is not affected and my VIN doesn't pull up anything either. I suppose i will get something in the mail if something comes up.