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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 06:44 PM
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Rear washer fluid

Before I am condemned, yes I have the manual and yes, I can Google it but I just got home from work and am too tired to search or look at the car ATM.

On my way home, I notice that the washer fluid does not come out for the rear window but it does for the windshield. I RARELY use washer fluid, especially the rear, so I have to ask...

Is there a separate reservoir for the rear (I'm doubting it)?
 
Old Dec 20, 2016 | 11:38 PM
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There is only the one reservoir up in the engine bay. It could be that the hose from the reservoir to the back has been damaged,come loose some where etc.
 
Old Dec 21, 2016 | 12:52 AM
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Many times when the rear windshield fluid does not work, it is because someone put water in the system and later it froze. Sometimes just thawing takes care of it and sometimes it breaks some of the fittings when frozen.

I replaced a reservoir in a 2011 Fit once and if I remember correctly there are two separate hoses coming out of the reservoir. I would disconnect the hose to the rear at o near the reservoir. Then try the rear to see if it pumps fluid there. If it does, then you know the problem is from there to the rear. If nothing comes out, then you need to figure out why the pump is not running.
 
Old Dec 21, 2016 | 06:52 AM
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I agree with n9cv, because it just got really cold in northeast, summer washer fluid would freeze in the line and the engine heat keeps the front lines thawed (after running engine a while). Mine froze up one time.

If you hear the pump running then it has to be the flow of fluid in or out.

Good starting point would to empty the reservoir (under hood on passenger side) by activating the front system until it is dry. Refill reservoir with winter stuff that won't freeze. That won't immediately fix a frozen line back to the rear window but as soon as the temperatures increase, you'll be ready for next step.

Christmas day and a little after, temperatures are supposed to be in the high 40s / low 50s again. In the afternoon, try the rear washer until it starts flowing again. If you have a heated garage space available, you could use that to speed up the process - do it today.

If that doesn't fix it then you may have other issues. Give us a "call". We can try to help on the forum.
 
Old Dec 21, 2016 | 08:52 PM
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I finally got around to checking the reservoir tonight and naturally, it was almost full just as I expected.

I can accept the fact that it may be frozen (sub zero temps lately and have never added water) but what throws me for a loop is why the front works. Perhaps because the hose length is shorter and gets used more frequently than the rear?

I will figure it out but thankfully it's not a safety issue and will troubleshoot once spring comes and there's some warmth! WINTER SUCKS!
 
Old Dec 21, 2016 | 11:41 PM
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hogwylde: As you originally noted, you don't use the washers much. I then have to assume that the fluid in the reservoir has been there for a long while. You may not have added straight water to your system, but every time the engine compartment heats up, a portion of the alcohol or whatever they are using to keep the fluid from freezing, will boil off. Over many heating cycles the remaining fluid's freeze characteristics will approach that of straight water or freeze at 32 deg F.

So, your fluid seems to have degraded to a point that it freezes in the teens. The fluid I have says it is good down to -20 deg F.

Again, hold the steering column lever to spray the front windshield until the reservoir is empty. Refill with new stuff made for the winter (don't use the green summer stuff that is good for bug removal). Continue to test the rear washer anytime after lunch (keep car in direct sunlight. At some point it'll start spraying. Make sure you spray until the new stuff has flushed out the system, front & back. Should be good after that. Make sure you always go into each winter with relatively new stuff (won't freeze until -20 deg F).
 

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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 02:25 AM
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The hose to the rear usually runs up along the headliner to the rear widow on most cars. (I'm not positive this is the routing on a Fit. ) The leaves a lot of area where it can cool and freeze. Especially when parked overnight. The front could also freeze but it is in the engine area and has plenty of heat with the engine running to quickly warm up and thaw.

I'm not positive that the system is frozen. So I suggest that you do as I said before and disconnect the hose and see if you get any fluid when selecting the rear washer. If I remember correctly, the rear hose ran along the top if the reservoir and plugged into a hose coming out of the fire wall up high on the passenger side.

It will only take you a couple of minutes to try this.
 
Old Dec 22, 2016 | 06:33 AM
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An issue that can develop is dirt in the system and it can effect the front and back spray nozzles (I had the issue with the driver's side spray head). The actual nozzle orifices - or is it orifici are very small and a small particle can mess up the spray pattern, and therefore, window coverage. This isn't as big deal on the rear since gravity draws the fluid down across the whole wiper blade but a problem on the driver's side is intolerable.

I disconnected the hose feeding the front nozzles from he pump motor and tried to backflush with compressed air but that just temporarily moved to particle away from the orifice. It was back with the next one or two shots of fluid to the windshield. You can never really backflush the lines with enough force to rid yourself of the offending particle - it remained lurking.

If you ever want to change spark plugs and want to properly torque them, you will get the experience of removing the windshield wipers, the plastic shroud, and the metal tray that forms the bottom of the airbox for ventilation system. You need to pay attention to several plastic buttons / clips that hold the shroud together and on the vehicle that cost more than you can believe

Anyway, for me, I had to eventually take off the wipers / plastic shroud, and removed the hose at the base of each nozzle to effectively clean out the offending particle. I shot soapy water in to "float" any particles and then backflushed with compressed air several times. I also ran the pump motor to clean out the lines before I hooked the system back up and tested it before putting everything back on the car.

Moral of the story is to be careful and keep chucks of anything out of the reservoir. I was thinking of adding a high-flo filter of some sort because it is such a PITA to remove any dirt. I haven't done anything yet, so no recommendations other than something I saw in TV, "Stay clean my friend".
 

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Old Dec 25, 2016 | 05:05 PM
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It was just frozen. The temps warmed up to the 40's (felt like a heat wave) and it started working again. Life is good again.
 
Old Dec 25, 2016 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hogwylde
It was just frozen. The temps warmed up to the 40's (felt like a heat wave) and it started working again. Life is good again.
Remember you need to flush out the reservoir and front & rear lines & nozzles with brand new -20 deg F washer fluid.

Then life will remain good, at least in this regard.
 
Old Sep 11, 2017 | 04:05 PM
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I'm in the throes of a rear washer electrical problem. Seems the impellor in the pump attached to the fluid reservoir is supposed to rotate one way for front and the other way for rear. Mine only rotates one way, so nothing comes out of the white nipple the rear hose attaches to. Front works fine (black nipple). I reversed the hoses and rear works fine, so it's not an obstruction. Might be a relay problem. Maybe I can live with it, as the rear wiper hardly clears enough window to make washing that small space a big deal.
 
Old Jan 21, 2025 | 09:14 PM
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Don't use RainX

I have a 2010 Sport and all the Nozzles stopped working, not at the same time. First the front ones went, they were gummed up. Then the rear stopped working and I was told there is a one way valve to the rear washer that was gummed up. I went to my usual mechanic and was told that they had seen this before with RainX especially if it mixes with other brand Washing fluid. I replaced the nozzle which didn't help. I was told I should go to a collision repair place because the liner would need to be removed and I was quoted over a thousand dollars for the repair. I went to my Honda dealer and they found the problem at the one way valve and repaired for under $200. Hard lesson learned. Don't use RainX. Hope this helps someone.
 
Old Jan 21, 2025 | 09:50 PM
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I also have a 2010 Fit Sport. The line to the rear washer runs through the firewall in the passenger footwell and then backwards along the floor next to the side sill before climbing up the rear passenger wheel well towards the right rear corner of the cabin where it goes through a rubber hose into the rear hatch.

If you want to access the hose in the main part of the cabin you don't need to touch the ceiling liner, you need to remove trim pieces along the floor and fold the carpet back a bit. Similarly, in the rear hatch area there are two big trim pieces covering the wheel well and window surround along with some smaller pieces surrounding the rear hatch opening. The washer hose runs under the ceiling liner right before transitioning into the rear hatch, but only for a few inches.

Whoever told you this is a $1000 job either doesn't know what they're talking about or is trying to take you for a ride.




 
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