I'd contact Honda to see if you're covered by that injector notice. Even if you're out of warranty, they may assist in the costs. I'd be persistent as there first response is usually no. I worked with them for a long time trying to sort out the misaligned front bumper before they agreed to try to fix it. Good luck. I'm sure it's frustrating to deal with these kidsk if issues

 

 

Remember when they had that bumper recall a couple of years ago? When I had to remove the front bumper to install new horns, I saw that one of the snap tabs was broken off. Either that was done during assembly, or it was done during the bumper removal for the recall.

Yes, I contacted Honda - tweet and email - but I'm not optimistic about them paying for it.

 

 

Sadly, they get paid for speed. I think most quality conscience mechanics get burnt out working at dealers and end up in private shops. Just hard to find them.

 

 

Been there! My Lincoln was done at the most expensive shop in a big town and it's not even close to quality work.

Took the VW to a small shop in a town even smaller than mine. Really impressed with his work.

Never know where you're going to find good...or...bad work.

 

On that note...Silver, do you know of any Honda specialists in your area? You might be better served with a private shop. You'll pay half the hourly rate and they are often willing to take off and return parts that don't fix the issue.

 

 

Sort of. The independent mechanic who worked on it (He did a smoke test and found the vacuum leak) used to work for the Nissan dealer. He couldn't stand the whole setup there, so he left and now has his own shop. The problem is speed. I'd have to make an appointment. Then he'd have to diagnose it. Then he'd have to order the part online. The last time, that took nine days. Honda will have the MAF sensor right there and install it in two minutes - and overcharge me.

f this was an extra car, waiting wouldn't be a problem. My son needs it to get to work, and it's going on two months past the State inspection. I have to drive him when his car is in the shop. Getting a ticket for the lack of inspection would just add to the growing cost.

 

Can you swap your known working MAF into his to eliminate that variable? it only takes a few minutes to do, when I cleaned mine a few months ago only 2 bolts hold it to the air box.

 

Good idea, but we have an appointment with the dealer in about an hour, and it's pouring out. If they say it needs injectors, maybe I'll swap mine in temporarily and see if that works.

 

We brought the car to Honda, and they went right back into valve adjustment and injector replacement mode, but they said they would "diagnose" it. I got a call an hour later saying that the problem was the Mass Air Flow sensor. They could order one and replace it tomorrow - for only $413.00! What a deal! So much better than $1,700 for injectors. I said I'd think about it, and we returned and got the car. My son drove to work, and I drove to Advance Auto where I got a sensor with a Limited Lifetime Warranty for $76. I don't think I'll charge my son $337 when I install it tonight.

I'll follow-up next week when we see the Check Engine light comes back on.

 

You left out the word "if." Are you loosing your optimism? LOL

I think I asked this before, but any chance he has an oiled filter? I don't think we've seen another MAF sensor failure here.

Edit....oh, food for thought...maybe the missing grommet caused the sensor to fail?

 

This whole adventure has been "if."

Yes, we have K&N oiled air filters, but they are not heavily oiled, and I've read a lot of online tests that showed they are not a problem with the MAF.

Missing grommet?

 

Sorry, I was thinking about the leaking collar. Not grommet.

I've also run K&N's in everything I've owned, but there is definitely Internet rumblings that they cause MAF sensor failures. I've always ignored them, but this doesn't seem very happenstance. I don't even run them with the amount of oil that they ship with. The last one I got was dripping wet. I used paper towels and got it as dry as possible before running it. Even the smallest bit of oil can ruin the MAF sensor.

 

Definitely something to think about. I'm going to read the articles links at this site.

https://www.ericthecarguy.com/kunena...-an-oiled-type

 

Just more food for thought in your research...I pull out the MAF and IAT in my other car (our generation Fit doesn't have a MAF), and spray them with CRC MAF cleaner each oil change. Maybe worth doing?

 

I hope that maf solves all your problems! beats the pants off of replacing those injectors

 

Right. I never knew that was possible until I started researching this problem online. I'll buy some of that spray Of course, I still don't know if the MAF is bad or not. If it is bad, is it because it needs cleaning, or is there an operational defect?