my 2015 fit with 24k miles started doing this also but after I changed the engine oil the rattle stopped. It never came back after 2 weeks already

 

Imagine getting these multiple times per day, like I did... for 3 years ... every single day. Dealer played the "cannot replicate" card on me so I learned to live with these rattles until 130k kms when I traded the car in. Motor never had an issue and power was always great along with fuel economy.

There's a service bulletin 16-088. Download it here:
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/A16-088.PDF

It outlines the exact repair procedure in replacing the VTC actuator along with a few other misc items.

But if you get the rattles occasionally, or a few times in the winter season ... I would not worry about it.

Here's a video with a sample rattle:

 

The GK fit actually has updated part numbers for the replacement VTC. Here's additional service bulletins for other recent models.

2013−16 Accord L4 and 2015−16 CR-V
http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/p...nu/A18010F.PDF

2008−12 Accord L4, 2012−15 Crosstour L4, and 2012−14 CR-V
http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/p...nu/A15110E.PDF

They state clearly that replacing the existing VTC with the same part number will not fix the issue. The VTC is actually not faulty. It's a "by design" unintended consequence.

 

I tried different oil filters and different oils when doing oil changes in my attempt to "fix" the rattles .... with no positive results .... whatsoever.

 

 

When they looked at my car for trade-in valuation, they did not even test drive it, as the kia dealer manager did. I was surprised about that. I noticed that the [honda] dealer was interested in money money money ... so they paid very little attention to the car. They did not even ask me if the car has any existing issues. On top of that I gave them a very reasonable valuation ... which further steered their attention to signing a deal right away ... which I did.

So after I signed all the paperwork and after they picked up the keys .... how should I say ... "no longer my problem". Besides, there's internal notes at the dealer who did warranty work on it in the past that they "could not replicate" issue.

Truth be told, despite the obviously concerning rattles ... the car never let me down.

 

 

The trade in was a 2015 Fit 6MT. The replacement is a low mileage (10k miles) 2016 EX-L navi. I love the CVT. Rpm's stay so low it's unbelievable. I already heard the VTC rattle lightly once in the week I had it so far, but nowhere near how crazy it was on the trade-in. They changed the oil before I received it, but the coolant tank was empty, so I had them fill it up. The only thing missing on this thing is remote start, which I will be installing shortly.

 

 

Sorry to bring this topic back from the dead - but does anyone know if the dealers have acknowledged this as an issue? I experience this twice a day every single day ranging from a slight grind to one that lasts a full second after starting the vehicle from cold. It turns heads in parking lots and is REALLY annoying.

I presume it isn't causing any damage, but what part would I need to buy to solve this issue, or am I just stuck with it?

Also, those PDF links that were posted earlier are broken - what did those entail?

 

tastypotato: what mileage and model year you have?

TSB 16-088 Titled: "Engine Rattles at Cold Startup" outlines the step by step VTC actuator replacement. It's not a simple procedure for diy, but can be done.

I lived with those crazy rattles for a good 70k miles. Got rid of car at 80k but the engine was still pulling strong. The rattles did not do any damage and despite sounding terrible, did not get worst either. They give you the impression that the engine will brake down at any time during start-up or something major will go wrong... but it never happens.

Honda has the same problem with some 2.4 liter accord / crv models and their first suggestion in their first TSB was to do nothing about it ... which makes sense since the rattles indeed do not do any damage. Older toyota matrixes also have this issue. I also heard this Hyundai my coworker has do this every start when she leaves to drive back home.

part# in pdf is listed as 14310-5R1-013 for the VTC actuator. But note the pdf also lists other misc parts to be replaced alongside.

I would suggest you live with it if you want so save a couple of bucks. I own the 2016 fit now and I basically never got the rattles with this one.

 

I've got a 2015 LX 6MT and I'm at 88k right now. I've been dealing with it pretty much since day one but over the past ~20k or so it's started to get worse or at least seams like it is.

I'm no newbie when it comes to auto repair, I just have zero experience with the Fit and/or L series engines. Done more damn timing belts on D series' then I can count...

I'm going to be having to pull the AC compressor off sometime shortly too due to the compressor clutch bearing squealing like a dying animal, so I figured while I'm down there... It does seem like a lot of work for something that may not even necessarily be fixed by replacing it though. :/

 

Similar thread here:
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...placement.html


LINK to TSB 16-088 PDF here:
https://testing-public.carmd.com/Tsb...118695/A16-088

 

[QUOTE=tastypotato;1407026]Sorry to bring this topic back from the dead - but does anyone know if the dealers have acknowledged this as an issue? I experience this twice a day every single day ranging from a slight grind to one that lasts a full second after starting the vehicle from cold. It turns heads in parking lots and is REALLY annoying.

I presume it isn't causing any damage, but what part would I need to buy to solve this issue, or am I just stuck with it?

Mine has started making a loud noise as well as the rattle, which concerns me. It sounds like something knocking on aluminum ! Only for a second at cold start. The dealer said fix it ASAP as it'll stretch the chain and take it the guides from rubbing on them so hard. $2700 cdn to fix it!!!!!

 

[QUOTE=krischevyz24;1491279]Hey.. So I have bad news. I dealt with that sound from essentially the start of owning the vehicle and the dealership told me over and over and over again that it would never be a problem.... until I was out of warranty, then they wanted to fix it and I told them to F themselves.

You need a new VTC actuator, timing chain, and guides. 2700 sounds reasonable honestly unless you want to try and do it yourself. However the VTC that they're going to put into the car is an updated version that Honda will not acknowledge was the original issue. You can try to bitch and moan to corporate but there aren't enough of us out there to get it fixed for free unfortunately..

It will eventually cause significant damage and your car will be put into limp mode: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...st#post1486846

You really ought to read the replies in the thread linked though and see if you can get your dealership to throw you a bone: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...acement-4.html