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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 07:26 AM
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Here are two things I made to make changing tires and jacking up the car easier. The first is a holder for the lug nuts. They aren't going to roll away or get scratched .

The second is a block I made for the Nissan Cube I used to have. I can use the big jack without worrying that it will damage the bottom of the car. First, I tried cutting a groove into a 2 X 4, but it split too easily. Then I used two pieces of plywood the right distance apart. This one is too high to fit under the Fit, so I'll have to make another. One difficulty is getting it to rest securely into the rounded bottom of the jack pad. If any of you have ideas, I'd like to hear them.

Another tip. Get some type of anti-seize compound and put a bit on the wheel bolts and also on the back of the wheel where it contacts the car. More than once, I've had a difficult time getting the wheel unstuck from the car.

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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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Great tips! I cut a piece of thick, rubber floor mat to use on the jack-pad. My jack appears to be much smaller than yours. You know what they say about a man with a big floor jack.....
 
Old Nov 15, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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Great tips! I cut a piece of thick, rubber floor mat to use on the jack-pad. My jack appears to be much smaller than yours. You know what they say about a man with a big floor jack.....
I used to use several magazines on the jack pad. They would deform enough that the jack probably wouldn't dent the car. I prefer the wood, since it fits just like the opening in the Honda jack. I had to bring my Cube to the dealer for a tire valve recall. A few weeks later, I noticed that the area where they had put the floor jack was damaged. Too late to complain.

As for the large floor jack - yes, it means I can lift large loads.
 
Old Nov 15, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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Cool tips! I bought a pair of scissor jacks with large base to keep the car stable. I rarely ever use the stock jack unless changing the tire away from home.

Normally I use two to three layers of cardboard on top of the jack to protect the car just enough for the "notch" to catch onto the car frame.
 
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Cool tips! I bought a pair of scissor jacks with large base to keep the car stable. I rarely ever use the stock jack unless changing the tire away from home.

Normally I use two to three layers of cardboard on top of the jack to protect the car just enough for the "notch" to catch onto the car frame.
All cars seem to use that system now, and it doesn't seem like a good choice.
 
Old Nov 15, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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You can just buy a rubber hockey puck, use a saw to cut a groove across the surface of the puck and then drop it onto the jack. It should work real well with the jack shown in the above picture. It might take a bit of work with the saw to make the groove wide enough for the car edge and you don't want to cut it too deep.
 
Old Nov 15, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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You can just buy a rubber hockey puck, use a saw to cut a groove across the surface of the puck and then drop it onto the jack. It should work real well with the jack shown in the above picture. It might take a bit of work with the saw to make the groove wide enough for the car edge and you don't want to cut it too deep.
Good idea, but I'd probably need two pucks because of the depth of the jack pad. I could glue them together. The rubber would be better than wood for making contact with the car.

I'm off to check Amazon.

EDIT: Amazon has pucks for $1.99. They're 3" in diameter and 1" thick. I'd have to use one on top of another, since the jack pad is 1" deep. Cutting a groove wouldn't be difficult. The jack pad is 5 1/2" in diameter, but that shouldn't matter.

Thanks for the tip!
 

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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 03:07 PM
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The wood pad looks good, but I'd make it longer to spread the load over more of the sill. I'd also reverse the screws so there isn't any chance of the screw heads damaging the paint if the wood compresses a bit.

Or, you could just get this:

http://protechproducts.com/index.php...&product_id=56

 

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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverEX15
Good idea, but I'd probably need two pucks because of the depth of the jack pad. I could glue them together. The rubber would be better than wood for making contact with the car.
Not sure how securely the rubber used in hockey pucks takes glue but you could probably also just screw or nail them together in addition for reinforcement. Hockey pucks are commonly used for this purpose up here in the Great White North.
 
Old Nov 15, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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[QUOTE=GeorgeL;1277855]The wood pad looks good, but I'd make it longer to spread the load over more of the sill. I'd also reverse the screws so there isn't any chance of the screw heads damaging the paint if the wood compresses a bit.

Or, you could just get this:

Clever. I'm glad I didn't know about that, or I might have spent a lot more than the hockey pucks cost. When I get something made with them, I'll post pictures.
 
Old Nov 15, 2014 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by woof
You can just buy a rubber hockey puck, use a saw to cut a groove across the surface of the puck and then drop it onto the jack. It should work real well with the jack shown in the above picture. It might take a bit of work with the saw to make the groove wide enough for the car edge and you don't want to cut it too deep.
Great pucking idea!
A puck would probably work perfectly on my diminutive floor jack from Harbor Frieght! Thanks!
 
Old Nov 16, 2014 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by woof
Not sure how securely the rubber used in hockey pucks takes glue but you could probably also just screw or nail them together in addition for reinforcement. Hockey pucks are commonly used for this purpose up here in the Great White North.
Just don't use one with the Leaf Logo. Will fail!! Go Habs!
 
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Originally Posted by SilverEX15

Another tip. Get some type of anti-seize compound and put a bit on the wheel bolts and also on the back of the wheel where it contacts the car. More than once, I've had a difficult time getting the wheel unstuck from the car.
Love the Lug-nut holder idea, but I'm going have to chime in on this one. I would never recommend using anti-seize or any other lubricating compound on the lugs (on the hub contact point yes in fact that's a great idea). Reason behind it is that it lubricates the threads and facilitates the over-torquing of the lugs, causing you to tighten them more than they should and stripping the bolts. If you're rotating them at a set interval, they should never get stuck. Well at least that's what they told us in auto-class.

On another note, I'm making that lug holder, then going to supper glue it to the bottom of my roller seat.
 
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Love the Lug-nut holder idea, but I'm going have to chime in on this one. I would never recommend using anti-seize or any other lubricating compound on the lugs (on the hub contact point yes in fact that's a great idea). Reason behind it is that it lubricates the threads and facilitates the over-torquing of the lugs, causing you to tighten them more than they should and stripping the bolts. If you're rotating them at a set interval, they should never get stuck. Well at least that's what they told us in auto-class.

On another note, I'm making that lug holder, then going to supper glue it to the bottom of my roller seat.
I realize that over-torquing is a possibility, so I apply very little lube. In the past, I've had to deal with bad threads that made turning the nut very difficult, which would lead to under-torquing.

The worst thing that happened in regard to this was my inability to get a wheel off the car after all the nuts had been removed. It was rusted onto the hub. I took it to a gas station, and they had to work on it for quite a while to get it off.

It was a tire store that recommended putting the lube onto the back of the wheel.
 
Old Dec 29, 2014 | 09:28 AM
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I realize that over-torquing is a possibility, so I apply very little lube. In the past, I've had to deal with bad threads that made turning the nut very difficult, which would lead to under-torquing.

The worst thing that happened in regard to this was my inability to get a wheel off the car after all the nuts had been removed. It was rusted onto the hub. I took it to a gas station, and they had to work on it for quite a while to get it off.

It was a tire store that recommended putting the lube onto the back of the wheel.
I do like the idea of lube/grease on the contact points between the rim and car. But on the wheel studs, no way too risky. I've had to get the big 20lb deadblow out to get wheels off before so I know from experience about having then stuck on... I did notice however that on painted or treated rotors I have never had a wheel stick, maybe this is the better solution? Clean and paint the contact points so no oxidation forms and binds the two surfaces? Going to try this idea with caliper paint this spring.
 
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