does it make that much difference????
I saw it in person, actually held it. Ehh..... Not sure if its due to it being a race header, but the pipes are TINY.
And the flexpipe is going to rot and leak in no time.
And the flexpipe is going to rot and leak in no time.
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Who makes it? And the lean condition happend when an Intake, header, cat-delete, and cat-back are together.
Im still worried. My car doesnt have any performance problems. Other Fit owners that drive my car say its WAY faster than theirs.
I still think 13.7-14.0 is pretty damn lean.
Im still worried. My car doesnt have any performance problems. Other Fit owners that drive my car say its WAY faster than theirs.
I still think 13.7-14.0 is pretty damn lean.
The downpipe is from Megan.....it has some sort of Hi Flow Resonator that I preferred over the T1R straight pipe....both still removing the very restrictive cat. Still running a stock mid pipe with Megan Axle Back n Megan Header plus the Aspec CAI.
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Ok, so then why has there been all this commotion about the cars leaning out? I really don't understand why or how people can dyno the same cars with pretty much the same mods, NO tuning, and get different numbers. (I realize the possible variables ie: temp, elevation blah blah blah...)
makes no sense to me. I just wanted to make sure people are being save with their cars, but i guess i assumed too much (like reliable information).
I'm not mad at anybody, nor am i implying anyone is lying. I'm not trying to argue or upset anyone. Tony, in no way am i trying to contradict you. -it's ridicules that i have to put this stupid disclaimer on my posts-
makes no sense to me. I just wanted to make sure people are being save with their cars, but i guess i assumed too much (like reliable information).
I'm not mad at anybody, nor am i implying anyone is lying. I'm not trying to argue or upset anyone. Tony, in no way am i trying to contradict you. -it's ridicules that i have to put this stupid disclaimer on my posts-
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Ok, so then why has there been all this commotion about the cars leaning out? I really don't understand why or how people can dyno the same cars with pretty much the same mods, NO tuning, and get different numbers. (I realize the possible variables ie: temp, elevation blah blah blah...)
well it could also depend on brand too...just b/c they are supposed to do the same job, design can also impact gains
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My axle back tips did not have ANY black residue before I added my Megan downpipe removing my cat......now they are coated with a rich black residue.
To me.....it seems to be running abit rich which my 10.2 ratio states. This is fine by me....I would rather be abit rich then lean.
tonyd
To me.....it seems to be running abit rich which my 10.2 ratio states. This is fine by me....I would rather be abit rich then lean.
tonyd
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Could the pipes be tiny b/c the ports on the L15 head are small in the first place? I mean theres no use in it being bigger since the primaries run a lot longer than conventional shorty.
My axle back tips did not have ANY black residue before I added my Megan downpipe removing my cat......now they are coated with a rich black residue.
To me.....it seems to be running abit rich which my 10.2 ratio states. This is fine by me....I would rather be abit rich then lean.
tonyd
To me.....it seems to be running abit rich which my 10.2 ratio states. This is fine by me....I would rather be abit rich then lean.
tonyd
Originally Posted by 03DSM-RSX
are there problems with it now? i have a DC-made race header with a flexpipe, never creaked or rusted over. And it was made via ceramic. Its been on a friend's car now for over 2 years, plus the 1.5 year i used it.
Could the pipes be tiny b/c the ports on the L15 head are small in the first place? I mean theres no use in it being bigger since the primaries run a lot longer than conventional shorty.
Could the pipes be tiny b/c the ports on the L15 head are small in the first place? I mean theres no use in it being bigger since the primaries run a lot longer than conventional shorty.
I dont really know?
As for the flexpipe. Remember this is a WR product were talking about.
It normally takes a few years for flexpipes to ware out. Also it depends on engine movement. The Fit motor mounts are crap too.
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Noob question:
I'm reading this thread and trying to figure out everything you guys are saying. (sorry I've only recently gotten into cars)
I was going to get an intake/axle back exhaust/header and possible b-pipe for my Fit when I got it, are you guys saying it'll wear out my engine faster or possible damage it?
Also what is the ratio you guys are talking about?
sorry for being such a nub.
I'm reading this thread and trying to figure out everything you guys are saying. (sorry I've only recently gotten into cars)
I was going to get an intake/axle back exhaust/header and possible b-pipe for my Fit when I got it, are you guys saying it'll wear out my engine faster or possible damage it?
Also what is the ratio you guys are talking about?
sorry for being such a nub.
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No you will not wear out or damage your engine using those parts. It MAY wear faster if you like the changes and drive much harder to take advantage of your new found power.
A/F ratio is the measurement of the amount of fuel (gasoline) (F) over the amount of AIR (A). The mixture of the two things has to be correct to run properly. Too much fuel or not enough air is called running rich. To little fuel or too much air is lean.
Running rich will make the car run poorly and burn more fuel. Running lean MAY and I say again MAY cause damage to your spark plugs and/or piston system in EXTREME CASES more so if you are running boost. There are many variables so this is just a SIMPLE overview.
A/F ratio is the measurement of the amount of fuel (gasoline) (F) over the amount of AIR (A). The mixture of the two things has to be correct to run properly. Too much fuel or not enough air is called running rich. To little fuel or too much air is lean.
Running rich will make the car run poorly and burn more fuel. Running lean MAY and I say again MAY cause damage to your spark plugs and/or piston system in EXTREME CASES more so if you are running boost. There are many variables so this is just a SIMPLE overview.
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