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Old 08-26-2008, 11:20 AM
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does the WR intake manifold have a largerer inlet diameter?
 
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jits14
does the WR intake manifold have a largerer inlet diameter?
I don't think it does, but I will have an opportunity to verify that this weekend.


I was thinking even with the reducer you are going to experence a big increase in throttle responce as the computer will be letting in more air than it expects. 35% open on a 64mm opening is a lot more air than 35% open on your stock TB.
 
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Can somebody verify this will work on a USDM Fit
 
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if this works... someone should produce a quality reducer. it might make the intake piping a tighter fit against the battery though.
 
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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak
I don't think it does, but I will have an opportunity to verify that this weekend.


I was thinking even with the reducer you are going to experence a big increase in throttle responce as the computer will be letting in more air than it expects. 35% open on a 64mm opening is a lot more air than 35% open on your stock TB.

You bring up some good points. Since our cars have no air flow meter, the computer won't know about the extra airflow. There is a very good chance of running lean. This might make the car feel crisp and might yield better gas mileage, but could damage the motor.
 
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Except near WOT because of the restriction going into the manifold would keep the flow the same as stock.

Probably the Blitz throttle controller is a better choice then unless you modify the manifold... now if that was only 75$ like the junked BMW TB
 
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if someone can give me the year and which bmws it comes off (not sure if someone did) then ill look into this
 
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Originally Posted by Masterdebater
if someone can give me the year and which bmws it comes off (not sure if someone did) then ill look into this
2001+ E46s with the 2.5L
 
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:24 PM
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- This TB is perfect for stock intake manifold
- WR intake manifold can't have a larger inlet diameter!
- Intake piping doesn't hit battery even with 2cm TB spacer (I tryed)
- Air flow meter??!!! Jazz/Fit has a map or tmap sensor! The car anyway doesn't run lean with this TB
- Blitz throttle controller is a game of 300$ and WR intake manifold for 500$ isn't worth, in my opinion..

To be precise this TB is only 0.90mm/1 cm larger than intake manifold inlet diameter (I'm referring to interior side of TB, not 64mm exterior). I built this "reducer" to avoid air hit this cm!!!
 
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:17 PM
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I am pretty sure the Fit uses a combination of the MAF and the 02 to do fuel adjustments. I have a feeling you would end up running way too lean, for the same reason I was running lean when I installed my intake manifold. you should run a check on your AF to see what it turns up.

BTW I can assure you the WR intake manifold is worth it I recently out-pulled an RSX with no problem with an extra 200lbs of gear on the back of the car (in a safe controlled environment in case anybody... especially mods were wondering)

I will measure the inlet diameter of the WR intake this weekend, also have an opportunity to measure the stock manifold tonight to verify the claim it is a 54mm opening.
 

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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak
BTW I can assure you the WR intake manifold is worth it I recently out-pulled an RSX with no problem with an extra 200lbs of gear on the back of the car (in a safe controlled environment in case anybody... especially mods were wondering)
the base model RSX, right? from a roll?
 
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Originally Posted by Injundon
2.5L Z3 and 2.5 and 3.0L Z4 all the same Part# : 13 54 7 502 445



the 64mm TB has nipples for coolant.
I looked this up and for 2002 the 2.5i has a different ending number 444 instead of 445.
 
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Originally Posted by thomasgrant
2001+ E46s with the 2.5L
This was not confirmed. That was my guess.
 
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tofuman
the base model RSX, right? from a roll?
Pretty sure it was a base, but was from a dead start and no RPM launch. I stayed ahead of him easily even with a shift. Those things must have outrageous RPM redlines because I was halfway through second before he shifted

Was just an interesting thing that happened, probably an novice driver or something.
 
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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak
Pretty sure it was a base, but was from a dead start and no RPM launch. I stayed ahead of him easily even with a shift. Those things must have outrageous RPM redlines because I was halfway through second before he shifted

Was just an interesting thing that happened, probably an novice driver or something.
The Type-S redlines at like 7800-8200rpms
Not sure what the base does. 6800rpms?
 
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:45 PM
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They are geared largein the 5spd, but they get through the gears almost as quick as a fit. He might not have been giving it wot.
 
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Im sure he was. Bases are slow. :-/
 
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wow... tagged for interest.
 
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:47 PM
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if the plenum is ultimately 47mm all you will get is slightly quicker response and you'll have to use less pedal input for for the same airflow.
 
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:27 PM
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Based on some research on ebaymotors, it isn't this part model and corresponding bmw fitments. If you notice, the front looks a little different and the plug is different.

BMW 330i 01 - 05
BMW 330i 06 - 06 Cpe and Conv
BMW 530i 01 - 05
BMW X3 04 - 06 3.0L
BMW X5 01 - 01 3.0L
BMW X5 02 - 03 3.0L
BMW X5 04 - 06 3.0L
BMW Z3 01 - 02 3.0L
BMW Z4 03 - 05 3.0L

Our Part # : 337-60815-K70710
Our Inventory Notes : 3.0L,AT,RW


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the ebay picture could be wrong though...

It seems like its only the 2.5l one if someone can find a picture of it, but it might be a european version. I searched the bosch number the OP posted and it pulls up all european models like the alfa 156 and some audi models but its all in foreign languages.
 

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