Afr?
#21
my AFR is a steady 14.9 at idle and WOT. when partial throttle is fluxuates(sp?) between 14.9 and 16.0.
13.0 is entirely too rich (too much fuel) for a NA motor.
chances are your intake (if its AEM intak...they arent well designed), your intake manifold or a combination of both is whats causing the problem.
13.0 is entirely too rich (too much fuel) for a NA motor.
chances are your intake (if its AEM intak...they arent well designed), your intake manifold or a combination of both is whats causing the problem.
Last edited by NIGHTHAWKSI; 02-25-2009 at 10:20 AM.
#24
Normally for a N/A Engine, it should be around 13.5:1 AFR for full power, Fit or not! Stock WOT is around 10.5:1 - 11:1 according to various graphs i've seen. They tune it rich from factory to provide some extra safety!! Personately i would try to enrichen it just a little!
Did you reset the car's ECU after the mods?? I figure then yes! If so, a S-AFC may be an idea as you could have 'em for dirt cheap on e-bay!
Marko!!
Did you reset the car's ECU after the mods?? I figure then yes! If so, a S-AFC may be an idea as you could have 'em for dirt cheap on e-bay!
Marko!!
#25
Normally for a N/A Engine, it should be around 13.5:1 AFR for full power, Fit or not! Stock WOT is around 10.5:1 - 11:1 according to various graphs i've seen. They tune it rich from factory to provide some extra safety!! Personately i would try to enrichen it just a little!
Did you reset the car's ECU after the mods?? I figure then yes! If so, a S-AFC may be an idea as you could have 'em for dirt cheap on e-bay!
Marko!!
Did you reset the car's ECU after the mods?? I figure then yes! If so, a S-AFC may be an idea as you could have 'em for dirt cheap on e-bay!
Marko!!
the only mod to my car is a test pipe and my AF gauge was reading 14.9 @ idle and 14.9 @ WOT.
i average 15.0 - 16.0 at partial throttle.
and my ecu has been reset.
Last edited by NIGHTHAWKSI; 02-25-2009 at 01:05 PM.
#26
Normally for a N/A Engine, it should be around 13.5:1 AFR for full power, Fit or not! Stock WOT is around 10.5:1 - 11:1 according to various graphs i've seen. They tune it rich from factory to provide some extra safety!! Personately i would try to enrichen it just a little!
Did you reset the car's ECU after the mods?? I figure then yes! If so, a S-AFC may be an idea as you could have 'em for dirt cheap on e-bay!
Marko!!
Did you reset the car's ECU after the mods?? I figure then yes! If so, a S-AFC may be an idea as you could have 'em for dirt cheap on e-bay!
Marko!!
#28
yea, very ridiculous. my tuner set my afr at 11.3 at WOT. but thats on a turbo engine making everything work harder and faster. on an NA engine, it should be around 13.5 at WOT. nothing wrong with your AFR. /thread
#30
The information about the ideal air\fuel ratio (13.5:1 for N\A tune!) is from Martin Musial at AMS and the guys at D-Sport! (But i'll check my books next weekends just to be sure!)
As fot the stock AFR at WOT, sorry guys, it's 11:1 - 11.5:1! My bad! You can check out the T1R header thread, the graph says 11.33:1 AFR stock fot that car... Depending on the sensors, location where they are, if it's due for a tune-up, milleage, etc.. it may vary a little! ...but i think your exhaust valves are having one hell of a bad time at 14.9:1 AFR WOT!
Marko!!
check this out!
http://www.qldstreetscene.com/forums...?showtopic=999
Last edited by DOHCtor; 02-25-2009 at 09:15 PM.
#31
i have been monitoring my a/f since i installed the weapon r manifold and i have been at a constant 14.5-14.9. i have not seen anything higher than 15.1
why are some of us reading differant a/f ratios?
the FI guys dont count cause of the piggyback ecu.
why are some of us reading differant a/f ratios?
the FI guys dont count cause of the piggyback ecu.
#32
The information about the ideal air\fuel ratio (13.5:1 for N\A tune!) is from Martin Musial at AMS and the guys at D-Sport! (But i'll check my books next weekends just to be sure!)
As fot the stock AFR at WOT, sorry guys, it's 11:1 - 11.5:1! My bad! You can check out the T1R header thread, the graph says 11.33:1 AFR stock fot that car... Depending on the sensors, location where they are, if it's due for a tune-up, milleage, etc.. it may vary a little! ...but i think your exhaust valves are having one hell of a bad time at 14.9:1 AFR WOT!
Marko!!
check this out!
Ideal Air/Fuel Ratio's and max power and economy tuning - Queensland Street Scene
As fot the stock AFR at WOT, sorry guys, it's 11:1 - 11.5:1! My bad! You can check out the T1R header thread, the graph says 11.33:1 AFR stock fot that car... Depending on the sensors, location where they are, if it's due for a tune-up, milleage, etc.. it may vary a little! ...but i think your exhaust valves are having one hell of a bad time at 14.9:1 AFR WOT!
Marko!!
check this out!
Ideal Air/Fuel Ratio's and max power and economy tuning - Queensland Street Scene
(end this damn thread!)
#33
agreed. he said his car had an rb20det. the T at the end stands for TURBO. why would a guy with a tuned skyline be posting afr numbers about NA? i agree. put this thread out of its misery and end it.
#34
so I went for a drive and I was in 3th gear at 2.5k WOT the AFR read 13.4 as the rpm's went up it got leaner (14.2) around 3.5k to 5k or less, then passing 5k it started to get rich at 6k ,6.6k down to 13.6 maybe less dont remember,what numbers am I supposed to look at
#35
so I went for a drive and I was in 3th gear at 2.5k WOT the AFR read 13.4 as the rpm's went up it got leaner (14.2) around 3.5k to 5k or less, then passing 5k it started to get rich at 6k ,6.6k down to 13.6 maybe less dont remember,what numbers am I supposed to look at
#36
so I went for a drive and I was in 3th gear at 2.5k WOT the AFR read 13.4 as the rpm's went up it got leaner (14.2) around 3.5k to 5k or less, then passing 5k it started to get rich at 6k ,6.6k down to 13.6 maybe less dont remember,what numbers am I supposed to look at
This sounds a bit lean
Last edited by Sugarphreak; 02-25-2009 at 11:49 PM.
#38
When I first installed the manifold it was running way over 16, not at WOT. It was tuned immediately after by the guys down at AJR.
From what I understand, target A/F is something like 13.0 to 14.5
From what I understand, target A/F is something like 13.0 to 14.5
#39
i asked leo at weapon r about it and the n1 concept fit was running around the same a/f numbers. im running right around the stoichiometric ratio. isn't that what a car is supposed to run at?
#40
I think it is a touch lean, but not going to cause any trouble.
I don't want to post any incorrect information, I would throw up a thread in the AJR thread and see what they have to say. There seems to be a lot of different opinions about what the correct A/F is supposed to be.
I don't want to post any incorrect information, I would throw up a thread in the AJR thread and see what they have to say. There seems to be a lot of different opinions about what the correct A/F is supposed to be.