2018 LKAS camera failure
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2018 LKAS camera failure
Bought this precertified car from Honda over a year ago. The LKAS camera light began to turn on the dashboard once in a while. It would turn on and then the next time I turned on the car, it would go away.
Thought it was strange and asked the dealership. They said it was my tolltag sticker. Removed the sticker and since, the problem has only grown. Now the dashboard shows LKAS light, cruise control light, road departure mitigation system problem, collision mitigation system problem.
I took the car to the dealership and they said it would be a whole lot of $$$ to replace LKAS camera.
Anyone have suggestions or had this happen before? I've debated removing my dashcam or moving the dashcam elsewhere to see if that helps.
Thought it was strange and asked the dealership. They said it was my tolltag sticker. Removed the sticker and since, the problem has only grown. Now the dashboard shows LKAS light, cruise control light, road departure mitigation system problem, collision mitigation system problem.
I took the car to the dealership and they said it would be a whole lot of $$$ to replace LKAS camera.
Anyone have suggestions or had this happen before? I've debated removing my dashcam or moving the dashcam elsewhere to see if that helps.
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From: Northridge, CA
Honda put faulty cameras in our cars. Someone needs to create a class action lawsuit. File complaints with NTSHA, BBB, CarComplaints.com.
Here is a template:
Component/System Involved:
The multi-purpose camera system on my [Year, Make, Model] has malfunctioned, disabling critical safety features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), and Collision Braking Warning System (CBWS).
Safety Risk:
The failure of these systems creates significant safety risks. Without ACC, the vehicle cannot maintain a safe distance from other vehicles. The LKAS no longer provides steering assistance to help stay in the lane, and the CBWS cannot detect or warn of potential collisions. These malfunctions increase the likelihood of accidents, especially during highway driving or in heavy traffic.
Problem Reproduction and Confirmation:
The issue has been reproduced and confirmed by [Dealer/Service Center Name] during an inspection on [Date].
Inspection Details:
The vehicle has been inspected by a dealer/service center, which diagnosed the problem. However, the manufacturer has not offered a resolution, nor has the vehicle been inspected by police, insurance representatives, or other parties.
Warning Indicators:
Before the failure, warning messages appeared on the dashboard, including alerts for ACC, LKAS, and CBWS system malfunctions. These warnings initially appeared on [Date/Timeframe] and became more frequent over time.
I believe this issue may be a design or manufacturing defect affecting other vehicles of the same make and model. I urge the NHTSA to investigate this matter to determine if it represents a broader safety concern.
Here is a template:
Component/System Involved:
The multi-purpose camera system on my [Year, Make, Model] has malfunctioned, disabling critical safety features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), and Collision Braking Warning System (CBWS).
Safety Risk:
The failure of these systems creates significant safety risks. Without ACC, the vehicle cannot maintain a safe distance from other vehicles. The LKAS no longer provides steering assistance to help stay in the lane, and the CBWS cannot detect or warn of potential collisions. These malfunctions increase the likelihood of accidents, especially during highway driving or in heavy traffic.
Problem Reproduction and Confirmation:
The issue has been reproduced and confirmed by [Dealer/Service Center Name] during an inspection on [Date].
Inspection Details:
The vehicle has been inspected by a dealer/service center, which diagnosed the problem. However, the manufacturer has not offered a resolution, nor has the vehicle been inspected by police, insurance representatives, or other parties.
Warning Indicators:
Before the failure, warning messages appeared on the dashboard, including alerts for ACC, LKAS, and CBWS system malfunctions. These warnings initially appeared on [Date/Timeframe] and became more frequent over time.
I believe this issue may be a design or manufacturing defect affecting other vehicles of the same make and model. I urge the NHTSA to investigate this matter to determine if it represents a broader safety concern.
Honda put faulty cameras in our cars. Someone needs to create a class action lawsuit. File complaints with NTSHA, BBB, CarComplaints.com.
Here is a template:
Component/System Involved:
The multi-purpose camera system on my [Year, Make, Model] has malfunctioned, disabling critical safety features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), and Collision Braking Warning System (CBWS).
Safety Risk:
The failure of these systems creates significant safety risks. Without ACC, the vehicle cannot maintain a safe distance from other vehicles. The LKAS no longer provides steering assistance to help stay in the lane, and the CBWS cannot detect or warn of potential collisions. These malfunctions increase the likelihood of accidents, especially during highway driving or in heavy traffic.
Problem Reproduction and Confirmation:
The issue has been reproduced and confirmed by [Dealer/Service Center Name] during an inspection on [Date].
Inspection Details:
The vehicle has been inspected by a dealer/service center, which diagnosed the problem. However, the manufacturer has not offered a resolution, nor has the vehicle been inspected by police, insurance representatives, or other parties.
Warning Indicators:
Before the failure, warning messages appeared on the dashboard, including alerts for ACC, LKAS, and CBWS system malfunctions. These warnings initially appeared on [Date/Timeframe] and became more frequent over time.
I believe this issue may be a design or manufacturing defect affecting other vehicles of the same make and model. I urge the NHTSA to investigate this matter to determine if it represents a broader safety concern.
Here is a template:
Component/System Involved:
The multi-purpose camera system on my [Year, Make, Model] has malfunctioned, disabling critical safety features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), and Collision Braking Warning System (CBWS).
Safety Risk:
The failure of these systems creates significant safety risks. Without ACC, the vehicle cannot maintain a safe distance from other vehicles. The LKAS no longer provides steering assistance to help stay in the lane, and the CBWS cannot detect or warn of potential collisions. These malfunctions increase the likelihood of accidents, especially during highway driving or in heavy traffic.
Problem Reproduction and Confirmation:
The issue has been reproduced and confirmed by [Dealer/Service Center Name] during an inspection on [Date].
Inspection Details:
The vehicle has been inspected by a dealer/service center, which diagnosed the problem. However, the manufacturer has not offered a resolution, nor has the vehicle been inspected by police, insurance representatives, or other parties.
Warning Indicators:
Before the failure, warning messages appeared on the dashboard, including alerts for ACC, LKAS, and CBWS system malfunctions. These warnings initially appeared on [Date/Timeframe] and became more frequent over time.
I believe this issue may be a design or manufacturing defect affecting other vehicles of the same make and model. I urge the NHTSA to investigate this matter to determine if it represents a broader safety concern.
1) Dead thread... Why bump it to the top other than to potentially spread misinformation?
2) There are too many variables and unknowns to even think about jump to a conclusion of a class action lawsuit without having diagnostic trouble codes and pictures of the subject vehicle.
Generally speaking, it is more common to see Honda Sensing faults triggered by aftermarket glass that doesn't meet Honda's criteria for Sensing cars (or even the wrong factory windshield), low battery voltage, and an outside influence such as a collision/impact and/or improper installation.
With that said and some example of a variables...
Honda Sensing was NOT standard on all Fits. It was optional on the LX and Sport trim levels but standard equipment on the EX and EXL. The windshields are even different part numbers, 73111-T5R-A41 for non-sensing facelifted cars (2018 to 2020MY), 73111-T5R-A01 for pre-facelift (2015 to 2017MY), and 73111-T5R-A31 for those 2018s to 2020s with sensing.
Low battery voltage can cause control units to set low voltage and initialization codes when source voltage is under 9.5 volts. One will see VSA, LKAS, ACC and TPMS warnings until the system sees above 12 volts, does its system self checks and initialization then finally clears the warnings on its own from the gauge cluster.
Outside influences are often more of a dead giveaway with these ordeals. If there is an aftermarket windshield of a sensing car it would not be uncommon for there to be some abnormalities with the system. Aftermarket windshields usually do not have the same curvature as OE as well as it is not uncommon to see the bracket to mount the shield/cover and the monocular camera/radar to be double sided taped on (OE's bracket is integrated/factory adhered to the windshield). That inconsistency alone can cause system faults as it either block the camera view, have an overexposure scenario blinding the camera or even **overheating** the camera. Finally we have the ordeal with aiming the cameras, be it the monocular camera for LKAS or millimeter wave radar for ACC... Both need to be done to the T as per instructions (tire pressure & tire size, similar tread depths, ride height vehicle free of cargo, etc) or else the vehicle will falsely pick up vehicles/obstructions while or track vehicles/obstructions at an odd, skewed angle.
The millimeter wave radar behind the Honda badge can be a tad more sensitive... If covered with enough bugs, dirt or mud then it'll soft code (as designed to encourage the operator to clean the area). If someone puts a Type R badge in front of the radar, it'll definitely trip a hard code. Same goes if one puts an aftermarket grill emblem base that is too thick (radar waves won't go through it) as well as if the millimeter wave radar mounting bracket was bent from an impact, improperly installed or its mounting points are misaligned from an impact.
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From: Northridge, CA
@Kirkland Two things...
1) Dead thread... Why bump it to the top other than to potentially spread misinformation?
2) There are too many variables and unknowns to even think about jump to a conclusion of a class action lawsuit without having diagnostic trouble codes and pictures of the subject vehicle.
Generally speaking, it is more common to see Honda Sensing faults triggered by aftermarket glass that doesn't meet Honda's criteria for Sensing cars (or even the wrong factory windshield), low battery voltage, and an outside influence such as a collision/impact and/or improper installation.
With that said and some example of a variables...
Honda Sensing was NOT standard on all Fits. It was optional on the LX and Sport trim levels but standard equipment on the EX and EXL. The windshields are even different part numbers, 73111-T5R-A41 for non-sensing facelifted cars (2018 to 2020MY), 73111-T5R-A01 for pre-facelift (2015 to 2017MY), and 73111-T5R-A31 for those 2018s to 2020s with sensing.
Low battery voltage can cause control units to set low voltage and initialization codes when source voltage is under 9.5 volts. One will see VSA, LKAS, ACC and TPMS warnings until the system sees above 12 volts, does its system self checks and initialization then finally clears the warnings on its own from the gauge cluster.
Outside influences are often more of a dead giveaway with these ordeals. If there is an aftermarket windshield of a sensing car it would not be uncommon for there to be some abnormalities with the system. Aftermarket windshields usually do not have the same curvature as OE as well as it is not uncommon to see the bracket to mount the shield/cover and the monocular camera/radar to be double sided taped on (OE's bracket is integrated/factory adhered to the windshield). That inconsistency alone can cause system faults as it either block the camera view, have an overexposure scenario blinding the camera or even **overheating** the camera. Finally we have the ordeal with aiming the cameras, be it the monocular camera for LKAS or millimeter wave radar for ACC... Both need to be done to the T as per instructions (tire pressure & tire size, similar tread depths, ride height vehicle free of cargo, etc) or else the vehicle will falsely pick up vehicles/obstructions while or track vehicles/obstructions at an odd, skewed angle.
The millimeter wave radar behind the Honda badge can be a tad more sensitive... If covered with enough bugs, dirt or mud then it'll soft code (as designed to encourage the operator to clean the area). If someone puts a Type R badge in front of the radar, it'll definitely trip a hard code. Same goes if one puts an aftermarket grill emblem base that is too thick (radar waves won't go through it) as well as if the millimeter wave radar mounting bracket was bent from an impact, improperly installed or its mounting points are misaligned from an impact.
1) Dead thread... Why bump it to the top other than to potentially spread misinformation?
2) There are too many variables and unknowns to even think about jump to a conclusion of a class action lawsuit without having diagnostic trouble codes and pictures of the subject vehicle.
Generally speaking, it is more common to see Honda Sensing faults triggered by aftermarket glass that doesn't meet Honda's criteria for Sensing cars (or even the wrong factory windshield), low battery voltage, and an outside influence such as a collision/impact and/or improper installation.
With that said and some example of a variables...
Honda Sensing was NOT standard on all Fits. It was optional on the LX and Sport trim levels but standard equipment on the EX and EXL. The windshields are even different part numbers, 73111-T5R-A41 for non-sensing facelifted cars (2018 to 2020MY), 73111-T5R-A01 for pre-facelift (2015 to 2017MY), and 73111-T5R-A31 for those 2018s to 2020s with sensing.
Low battery voltage can cause control units to set low voltage and initialization codes when source voltage is under 9.5 volts. One will see VSA, LKAS, ACC and TPMS warnings until the system sees above 12 volts, does its system self checks and initialization then finally clears the warnings on its own from the gauge cluster.
Outside influences are often more of a dead giveaway with these ordeals. If there is an aftermarket windshield of a sensing car it would not be uncommon for there to be some abnormalities with the system. Aftermarket windshields usually do not have the same curvature as OE as well as it is not uncommon to see the bracket to mount the shield/cover and the monocular camera/radar to be double sided taped on (OE's bracket is integrated/factory adhered to the windshield). That inconsistency alone can cause system faults as it either block the camera view, have an overexposure scenario blinding the camera or even **overheating** the camera. Finally we have the ordeal with aiming the cameras, be it the monocular camera for LKAS or millimeter wave radar for ACC... Both need to be done to the T as per instructions (tire pressure & tire size, similar tread depths, ride height vehicle free of cargo, etc) or else the vehicle will falsely pick up vehicles/obstructions while or track vehicles/obstructions at an odd, skewed angle.
The millimeter wave radar behind the Honda badge can be a tad more sensitive... If covered with enough bugs, dirt or mud then it'll soft code (as designed to encourage the operator to clean the area). If someone puts a Type R badge in front of the radar, it'll definitely trip a hard code. Same goes if one puts an aftermarket grill emblem base that is too thick (radar waves won't go through it) as well as if the millimeter wave radar mounting bracket was bent from an impact, improperly installed or its mounting points are misaligned from an impact.
*Problem Reproduction and Confirmation:*
The issue has been reproduced and confirmed by [Dealer/Service Center Name] during an inspection on [Date].
The "issue has been reproduced and confirmed" bit is too much of an open ended gray area because there is no mention of any DTCs that correlate with the concern and system in that post or your other copy/pasted posts on this forum. Nor is there any mention of radar/camera aiming done to attempt a fix nor documentation of the road conditions that the camera would need to interpret and flag an out of lane warning, vehicle distance/presence acknowledgement, or collision mitigation braking event.
Like I mentioned above (and you likely glazed over), there are honestly too many variables to take in consideration.
The most common cause of the faults I've seen firsthand (but aren't limited to) are either an incorrect windshield, incorrect/aftermarket grill base (again, blocks radar waves), impact damage, and/or improper aiming. If the first three items are obvious then you'll need to get them addressed before even proceeding any further.
Also going by your prior posts, I can see why you're desperate since...
I'm dealing with the same issue on my 2019 Fit. I had it diagnosed, and the cost for repair and recalibration is estimated between $1800 and $2400. It seems like more of these systems are failing lately. I reached out to Honda hoping they'd cover it as a goodwill gesture, but they were no help at all.
I plan to get it fixed, but I'll be filing complaints through every available channel. I suspect this will become a bigger problem as more vehicles experience the same failure.
To address your question, the brake system is probably fine, but the fact that it completely disables cruise control while bombarding you with errors, loud warnings, and annoying messages is unacceptable. It feels like planned obsolescence to me—$2000 per repair across however many Fits they sold.
I plan to get it fixed, but I'll be filing complaints through every available channel. I suspect this will become a bigger problem as more vehicles experience the same failure.
To address your question, the brake system is probably fine, but the fact that it completely disables cruise control while bombarding you with errors, loud warnings, and annoying messages is unacceptable. It feels like planned obsolescence to me—$2000 per repair across however many Fits they sold.
Care to add any details on your DTCs from this visit or are you electing to with hold that info as well?
If the dealership diagnosed your vehicle then they should have a story listing your concern, the cause of the fault with supporting DTCs, and the correction for it.Last edited by Hootie; Jan 16, 2025 at 01:00 AM.
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I am experiencing this issue too. I am sure it is related to the window replacement, but it the whole system worked fine for about a year after the windshield replacement. Is my only option to take it to the dealer and pay those exorbitant prices?
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