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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Dam man what mpg do u get?? So the kraftswerks will get u better numbers?? My buddy has a rsx type s with a jackson supercharger on it pushing around 270-280whp. Seems like he should be pushing more. That is a sick car for sure, that is the dream of every perfromance guy is geting a sleeper and beating higher priced cars that would not expect it. I would love to see a STI guys face when u walk him in a fit LOL

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I have a few stock sti kills under the belt - rolling of course.. none will be from a dig in this car.
 
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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WHY not get an intercooler with inlet and outlet on one side !!!

lucky ur car is usdm ....with lots of room.....i don't think i can run that set up where the pipes are in a jdm conversion

good job
 
Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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Last night we BBQed up some steaks and thinking about the old days. here are some shots of Honda tuning I was in back in the day
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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Went to the Zoo today~! PACKED the Fit up with peoplez and rolled out Deep with bawlers.
then after the Zoo went to the Bite of Seattle - Amazing food, good beer and best friends made it an awesome day.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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that fit should be an exhibit at the zoo.... its quite the beast!
 
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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that fit should be an exhibit at the zoo.... its quite the beast!

Man you need to come to one of my BBQ's I ll hit you up next time I BBQ bring your girl its a casual relaxed atmosphere
 
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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i definately will. i will bring the bike since my fit looks like pork fried rice next to yours.
 
Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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So your SC is off the car now??
 
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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damn it...i juz luv ur car n its K24
 
Old Jul 21, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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correct I will not have the whine anymore, BUT! I will have the BOV - Blow Off Valve sound that will Replace it

TrancedSailor - you know the cost of a K series engine has been lowered alot so think of it this way - the cost of a high boost turbo kit is what 2500~ 3600? then how much is a used L15 engine? like 1000~ 2000? just guessing Ive never reserched it. BUT! thats like 5000 allready IF you blow that engine up with High boost, if an engine blows the Turbo kit is going with it, so you can only salvage what is left, so why risk keeping a L15 engine when you can replace a K20A2 for like 2500? thats normal aspirated not boosted.

You have to understand if you swap a K into your fit - YOU HAVE AN AMAZING RIDE! the way it should have been built.

Im being 100 percent honest when I say my fit runs like stock to me - I have no issues with cels, or any quarks. its like my fit was born this way I would recomend this swap to anyone because maintance is just the same as an L15 but only diff is it has more torque, and HP

I think its worth the money to just swap the engine out and leave the L15 in the garage for a bar stool.
but he was talking about high boosting it with a kit from the same company you are getting..you know the one thats going to lower your intake temps and what not and be more reliable? i doubt blowing up is going to be an issue.

after calculating losses, the last high boost fit put out 170+ whp and 140wtq, which means it would be producing hp on par with a n/a k20...and even MORE torque (at lower rpms too.)

and he wouldn't need a crazy ass suspension to offset the weight imbalance (which sucks, just ask bmw owners why they dont like audi's) over the front wheels, just some nice aftermarket dampers or coilovers.

again, i love what you have done for your car, but to most folks still making payments on thier fit (hell even if its paid off), high boost is still the way to go, even if its not the ultimate path to power. (which means little to those who prefer balance.)
 
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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So your saying im wrong by puting a kraftwerks kit on my k20? its going to lower my temps under full throttle, as air is getting intercooled, and the engine temps it self along with other compontes will not get stressed by the heat.

as for " balanced" car , my suspension can be bought from Progress auto, the difference in weight is not as high as you might think since the weight is over the whiles, not infront of them. all I was saying is just look at other options if your going to spend 5k on a high boost kit, thats all. I could care less if someone buys a tubro kit versus a swap, its their car do what ever you want.

Just wondering though, since you know alot about "Balanced" cars now is it possible not to make the fit ballanced because of the swap? just wondering

I tuned a 19 psi Turboed RSX this past weekend, and during pulls the engine temps decressed by like 3~5 degrees. Street tuning in 80+ degree weather, so who knows lowering temps might make the engine last longer by boosting high.
 
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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So your saying im wrong by puting a kraftwerks kit on my k20? its going to lower my temps under full throttle, as air is getting intercooled, and the engine temps it self along with other compontes will not get stressed by the heat.

as for " balanced" car , my suspension can be bought from Progress auto, the difference in weight is not as high as you might think since the weight is over the whiles, not infront of them. all I was saying is just look at other options if your going to spend 5k on a high boost kit, thats all. I could care less if someone buys a tubro kit versus a swap, its their car do what ever you want.

Just wondering though, since you know alot about "Balanced" cars now is it possible not to make the fit ballanced because of the swap? just wondering

I tuned a 19 psi Turboed RSX this past weekend, and during pulls the engine temps decressed by like 3~5 degrees. Street tuning in 80+ degree weather, so who knows lowering temps might make the engine last longer by boosting high.
wow talk about complete and total misunderstanding of my post.

you insinuated that if he went with a 'high boost' kit on his car and spent 5 k on it, he might as well do the swap and keep the n/a reliability.

i then went on to say that its a moot point: he was considering a high boost SUPERCHARGER kit, from the same company you are planning to use, kraftwerks. so the advantage of going n/a k20 as far as reliability is concerned doens't hold much weight here. i thought i was pretty straightforward with my post?

not to mention that a highboost supercharger, even installed, sure as hell wont be 5k.

i'm sure YOUR fit is balanced...but again i'm going by what you said: you claimed that regular coilovers, or aftermarket dampers and springs would nto be enough to support a kswap and negate the extra weight over the wheels.

with a kraftwerks supercharger kit, you could make do with just those regular coilovers or dampers/springs instead of doing all the suspension work you have done, and keep the cars stock balance

and if i'm not mistaken, wouldn't having extra weight over the front wheels be just as bad if not worse than having it up in front of them, considering the fit is fwd and those wheels are already burdened with steering and propulsion?
 

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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don't even compare boosted L15 to K
they are not on the same lvl

with 5k budget, don't mod your car
period
 
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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wow talk about complete and total misunderstanding of my post.

you insinuated that if he went with a 'high boost' kit on his car and spent 5 k on it, he might as well do the swap and keep the n/a reliability.

i then went on to say that its a moot point: he was considering a high boost SUPERCHARGER kit, from the same company you are planning to use, kraftwerks. so the advantage of going n/a k20 as far as reliability is concerned doens't hold much weight here. i thought i was pretty straightforward with my post?

not to mention that a highboost supercharger, even installed, sure as hell wont be 5k.

i'm sure YOUR fit is balanced...but again i'm going by what you said: you claimed that regular coilovers, or aftermarket dampers and springs would nto be enough to support a kswap and negate the extra weight over the wheels.

with a kraftwerks supercharger kit, you could make do with just those regular coilovers or dampers/springs instead of doing all the suspension work you have done, and keep the cars stock balance

and if i'm not mistaken, wouldn't having extra weight over the front wheels be just as bad if not worse than having it up in front of them, considering the fit is fwd and those wheels are already burdened with steering and propulsion?
I dont even know what youre talking about anymore.
 
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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So your saying im wrong by puting a kraftwerks kit on my k20? its going to lower my temps under full throttle, as air is getting intercooled, and the engine temps it self along with other compontes will not get stressed by the heat.

as for " balanced" car , my suspension can be bought from Progress auto, the difference in weight is not as high as you might think since the weight is over the whiles, not infront of them. all I was saying is just look at other options if your going to spend 5k on a high boost kit, thats all. I could care less if someone buys a tubro kit versus a swap, its their car do what ever you want.

Just wondering though, since you know alot about "Balanced" cars now is it possible not to make the fit ballanced because of the swap? just wondering

I tuned a 19 psi Turboed RSX this past weekend, and during pulls the engine temps decressed by like 3~5 degrees. Street tuning in 80+ degree weather, so who knows lowering temps might make the engine last longer by boosting high.
just to play the devils advocate here, its not the increase in weight from the k series engine that throws off the balance of the fit. its how the engine sits in the bay that makes the center of gravity higher than it would be with an L series engine, thus creating more body roll to an already tall car. there isnt much you can do about that other than to transfer weight from the front to the rear (i.e. remote fuel cell, battery relocation, etc) and raise the rear suspension height slightly
 

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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I dont even know what youre talking about anymore.

um....ok? its pretty straighforward.


kelso: great points.
 
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Does anyone know what 1/4 mile times he was getting and how much power he had to the wheels? Just curious.
 
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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car looks great. you have to get new pics of the KWSC kit in your car. what kind of exhaust are you using?
 



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