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Id suggest 10mm spacers. Id also like to know if the lug studs are long enough.
Or just get 8mm like the user above.
With a 33mm offset out back youll need to flatten the rear 1/4 lips. Youll also need to cut the rear bumper clips and drill holes in the bumper and rear 1/4 to hold the bumper flush with zipties.
Or just get 8mm like the user above.
With a 33mm offset out back youll need to flatten the rear 1/4 lips. Youll also need to cut the rear bumper clips and drill holes in the bumper and rear 1/4 to hold the bumper flush with zipties.
#22
Was there ever a definitive answer to the question of whether or not longer studs are needed with 10mm spacers? I want to space my stockers so they aren't buried in the wheel wells with my Skunk2 springs. And where in hell are you guys coming up with the 8mm spacers? I wore Google out last night trying to find them with no luck what-so-ever!
#23
really depends on the lug boar of your wheels, but typically i would NOT
go past 5mm if you are not going to use longer studs.
generic rule of thumb (not scientifically proven) is you want
minimum 7full rotations on the lug before it bottoms out onto
your wheel.
go past 5mm if you are not going to use longer studs.
generic rule of thumb (not scientifically proven) is you want
minimum 7full rotations on the lug before it bottoms out onto
your wheel.
#24
Hmm now I'm torn between 5mm and 10mm I'll be running a +43 offset 15x7 I know 5 will bring me down to +38 and 10 to +33
I've searched and found this about hub centric and lug centric here's the link
Hub Centric vs
I've searched and found this about hub centric and lug centric here's the link
Hub Centric vs
We don't like to exceed 6 mm (1/4") spacers on Fits without extended lugbolts. Too little thread contact for safely driving on spacers thicker than that. Thats referring to alloy wheels that typically have about 3/8 to 1/2" thickness so you can get 8 mm of thread engagement. Thats pushing it as you really should have 12 mm of thread engagement )=lugbolt dia) or about 8 turns on a bolt with 1.5 mm pitch.
If you go to steel wheels with the typical 1/8" thickness you can go 8 or 10 mm spacers.
When you unscrew the nuts you should have 7 or 8 turns before it falls off. Its not a matter of what you can get away with just suitting there but how much strength there is holding the wheel on when you hit potholes in the middle of a turn.
And expect lots of rubbing if you start at 43 mm offset.
good luck.
Last edited by mahout; 03-13-2009 at 07:37 PM.
#26
I got the H&R brand bought them at allsprings.com cheapest online store I found. They are a good brand too
#27
Bitoy, I see you went with 10mm in our specific application, H&R brand (I wouldn't use anyone else) Did you get the DRS and install the longer studs? I know its pretty easy. My main question, that no one seems to have an answer for is this. Will a 20mm spacer be too wide with a stock wheel? I know that 25mm is a full inch wide and I don't think I could squeeze that inside the wheelwell. I just want to avoid having to install two different sets of extended studs. First because the tens need them, and second the twenties because the tens weren't wide enough.
#28
Bitoy, I see you went with 10mm in our specific application, H&R brand (I wouldn't use anyone else) Did you get the DRS and install the longer studs? I know its pretty easy. My main question, that no one seems to have an answer for is this. Will a 20mm spacer be too wide with a stock wheel? I know that 25mm is a full inch wide and I don't think I could squeeze that inside the wheelwell. I just want to avoid having to install two different sets of extended studs. First because the tens need them, and second the twenties because the tens weren't wide enough.
Any spacer is equal to the same reduction in offset. A 10 mm spacer means the offset is 10 mm less; on an 09 wheel 16x7/53 the new offset is 43 mm which is doable IF YOU REPLACE THE STUDS WITH LONGER ONES so you get full engagement of threads (12 mm or 7 to 8 'turns')
And yes a 25 mm spacer, besides being very hard on bearings and links, means the offset drops from 53 to about 28 mm, way too little without serious body mods. And they are heavy as most are steel.
good luck.
Neither is recommended.
Last edited by mahout; 03-21-2009 at 09:11 AM.
#29
Mahout, thank you once again for your good advice and info! +rep to ya I am going with a 15mm spacer, as a careful measuring job revealed that the 20mm was indeed way more extreme than i was looking for. The 15 keeps the tire inside the fender lip entirely but pushes it out noticeably. The 15mm will also allow me to use Rays suggestion of a 205-50-15 replacement tire with no worries about rubbing. Although we'll see what happens when I actually mount them sometime next week!
#30
Mahout, thank you once again for your good advice and info! +rep to ya I am going with a 15mm spacer, as a careful measuring job revealed that the 20mm was indeed way more extreme than i was looking for. The 15 keeps the tire inside the fender lip entirely but pushes it out noticeably. The 15mm will also allow me to use Rays suggestion of a 205-50-15 replacement tire with no worries about rubbing. Although we'll see what happens when I actually mount them sometime next week!
Whoa. I never recommend a spacer over 6 mm (1/4") as it puts way too much stress on wheel bearings and suspension links. And thats not counting the effects of camber change.
Plus I don't think you'll avoid rubbing with an offset of 38 to 40 mm lowered with 205/50x15 tires.
It may be doable but not a good thing to do.
The only salvation is if the back space of the wheel was increased to bring the inside rim edge back to the original place but thats not easy to accomplish.
Last edited by mahout; 03-21-2009 at 09:15 AM.
#32
Whoa. I never recommend a spacer over 6 mm (1/4") as it puts way too much stress on wheel bearings and suspension links. And thats not counting the effects of camber change.
Plus I don't think you'll avoid rubbing with an offset of 38 to 40 mm lowered with 205/50x15 tires.
It may be doable but not a good thing to do.
The only salvation is if the back space of the wheel was increased to bring the inside rim edge back to the original place but thats not easy to accomplish.
Plus I don't think you'll avoid rubbing with an offset of 38 to 40 mm lowered with 205/50x15 tires.
It may be doable but not a good thing to do.
The only salvation is if the back space of the wheel was increased to bring the inside rim edge back to the original place but thats not easy to accomplish.
#33
right now im using 15x6.5 with 195/55/15 tires +37 offset
i was thinking of adding an 8mm spacer in the rear and 5mm in the front
how would this turn out?
btw im still on stock suspension
i was thinking of adding an 8mm spacer in the rear and 5mm in the front
how would this turn out?
btw im still on stock suspension
#34
Hmm now I'm torn between 5mm and 10mm I'll be running a +43 offset 15x7 I know 5 will bring me down to +38 and 10 to +33
I've searched and found this about hub centric and lug centric here's the link
Hub Centric vs
I've searched and found this about hub centric and lug centric here's the link
Hub Centric vs
Why do you need wheel spacers?
Am I missing something here? Is this just for an aggressive stance?
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