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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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my $27k subaru forester has more rattles than my fit. my buddies evo(s) have more rattles than my fit. almost every vehicle from the "big 3" have documented "below average" reliability ratings, as well as some of the worst gas mileage ratings...so, i guess add all those to your list of "DO NOT BUY" list. maybe look into a goldwing?
Thats an outright lie! American cars reliability rates have gotten much better and are close to Japanese reliability ratings. They surpass all european cars. And as far as gasoline mileage? Many, MANY american cars get over 30 MPG. So go spread your BS somewhere else.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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I don't know if I should take the OP's advice or listen to the rest of the members here and the dozens of positive Fit reviews I've read

I think I still would rather take my chances on getting a reliable car from Honda than other car manufacturer (that's based in a certain country).
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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I know dash rattles very well, after my dealer destroyed my dash,
they installed a new one, rattles were an everyday occcurance.
Well after 10-15 visits my rattles are gone. Don't give up, just
keep complaining. What finally did the trick, was they sprayed
wax underneath the dash, and tightened every well, and all the
rattles went away!
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hiroko12
Thats an outright lie! American cars reliability rates have gotten much better and are close to Japanese reliability ratings. They surpass all european cars. And as far as gasoline mileage? Many, MANY american cars get over 30 MPG. So go spread your BS somewhere else.
American car quality has improved a lot over the years, and it is nearly on par with the second tier Japanese cars (Mitsubishi, Nissan, etc), but they still have a LONG way to go to catch up with Honda and Toyota in that area. European cars are definately lagging behind.

There are some American cars that get over 30MPG, but not "MANY". Most of those get 30-32MPG highway... Fits, Civics, Carollas do that well, or better, in the city...
I can't think of a single American car (including the hybrids) that can match a Fit's fuel economy rating.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HapaLynai
I don't know if I should take the OP's advice or listen to the rest of the members here and the dozens of positive Fit reviews I've read

I think I still would rather take my chances on getting a reliable car from Honda than other car manufacturer (that's based in a certain country).
Listen to everyone else... the Fit isn't perfect, and it isn't for everyone, but it is a GREAT car considering the small $. The OP seems to have completely unreasonable expectations; they should probably consider an LS470.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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I do get the rattles as well. Doesn't matter if I am doing 40 or 80 (on road).

All I know is that I finally got my Honda Dealership to hear them. Then they tested all of the Fits on the lot and found them there as well. They are working on a fix for it.

If you want, I can sell you some patience.

ps, I don't think they will lemon law a car for a dash rattle I may be wrong, but I think it has to be a "major" problem.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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w/e i enjoy every single day with my Honda Fit... last time i check it was a car not a SUT a lil truck... wow wat a moron ( sorry i had too say it )
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hiroko12
Thats an outright lie! American cars reliability rates have gotten much better and are close to Japanese reliability ratings. They surpass all european cars. And as far as gasoline mileage? Many, MANY american cars get over 30 MPG. So go spread your BS somewhere else.
hows ur civic SI running by the way...
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hiroko12
American cars reliability rates have gotten much better and are close to Japanese reliability ratings. They surpass all european cars.And as far as gasoline mileage? Many, MANY american cars get over 30 MPG. So go spread your BS somewhere else.
aren't a great majority of american cars now designed by europeans?

sorry for the off topic question.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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guys dont lie to yourself.The fit rattles like a bitch under 60 degrees and there's always that one rattle behind the glovebox
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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guys dont lie to yourself.The fit rattles like a bitch under 60 degrees and there's always that one rattle behind the glovebox
i dont know about you i dont get that rattle...
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Zangoose GD3 Blue
i dont know about you i dont get that rattle...
lucky guy
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hiroko12
Thats an outright lie! American cars reliability rates have gotten much better and are close to Japanese reliability ratings. They surpass all european cars. And as far as gasoline mileage? Many, MANY american cars get over 30 MPG. So go spread your BS somewhere else.
The first time you said "many" I thought it was true but the second time you said "many," and in caps, I had to see for myself so I went on fueleconomy.gov and looked at all the "domestic" cars being sold in the 2008 model year. Most cars under the new standard won't get 30mpg city or combined so I just looked at those that only have 30hwy mpg. Here's what I found:

Buick - 0
Cadillac - 0
Chevrolet - 6 (Aveo, Classic, Cobalt, Malibu, Malibu Hybrid, HHR)
Chrysler - 1 (Sebring)
Dodge - 1 (Avenger)
Ford - 1 (Focus)
GMC - 0
Hummer - 0
Jeep - 0
Lincoln - 0
Mercury - 0
Pontiac - 3 (G5, G6, Vibe)
Saturn - 3 (Aura, Aura Hybrid, Vue Hybrid)
Saleen - 0
Shelby - 0

So I think I'll agree with you saying first "many," but you saying it a second time and IN CAPS........I would have to disagree.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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I'm a happy Fit owner.... BUT Honda's decision on using extremely cheap interior plastic has really started to piss me off. As soon as the temperatures became cold, the rattles presented themselves, and are hopefully getting fixed today along with the SRS issue.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hiroko12
Many, MANY american cars get over 30 MPG. So go spread your BS somewhere else.
What's MANY? Please name a few. I'm seriously interested.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hiroko12
Thats an outright lie! American cars reliability rates have gotten much better and are close to Japanese reliability ratings. They surpass all european cars. And as far as gasoline mileage? Many, MANY american cars get over 30 MPG. So go spread your BS somewhere else.
I only speak of what I know...be it thru personal experiences or research. I've owned 25 cars, import and domestic. How many have you owned? I've been doing tons of research on 2008 model vehicles lately, as I'll be purchasing something in the next 6 months.

HypaLynai already pointed out what a little "actual" research can do. I'll stand by my words, if you choose to call it BS, that's your perogative as an uninformed consumer.

Pick up the lastest Consumer Reports tilted "Best and Worst of '08". Then browse thru all the american vehicles and point out to me how many of them have a good reliability rating. Then do the same for imports. Then compare gas mileage ratings. Then you can come back and apologize for being uninformed.
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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not true! all 3 of my mtn. bikes rattle. scratch those off the list, too.
hahahahahahaha
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sam21
guys dont lie to yourself.The fit rattles like a bitch under 60 degrees and there's always that one rattle behind the glovebox
Sorry to dissapoint... I don't get that rattle either It gets down to -40 (even more with the windchill here) in the winter easy. No rattles, only the sweet sweet sound of that fine Honda motor!


lol, I somehow doubt an Aveo is going to satisfy our OP!!
 

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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A typical forum - I never said the car was "off roading". I said we drove on a dirt road as in unpaved. It was two blocks from the dealer. I have been watching this forum for a year and a half and happen to know a huge number of people have complained about unacceptably low gas mileage and about rattles. There is even another thread on rattles. Plus, I am not a kid. I am over 50 years old. I made a post to warn others not to make the same mistake I did. There are many other reasons not to buy a FIT such as the loudness of the car at highway speeds, the continual hunting for gears by the auto trans at cruising speeds, the jerky windshield wipers, etc.

Wow talk about hasty generalization. Dude, dirt roads is still off roading. Anything that's not driven on pavement is considered off roading. And WTF does you being over 50 years old have to with this topic?
 
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Actually, since you won't actually do research I'll point out a few things from that particular issue:

In their(consumer reports) study of "most satisfying" vehicles, from small car(honda fit won btw) to minivans, not a single one was american.

"least satisfying"...all catagories were led by american cars, except suzuki vitara. matter of fact, i don't see any imports listed!

"most miles per gallon" small cars: prius, civic hybrid and fit are top 3. no american cars in sight. midsize/large, no american cars in the top 8 at least. suvs, one american car in top 8(jeep).

"fewest miles per gallon" small cars lead with chrysler, dodge, chevy. midsize, all american and a few european. suvs, all american in the top 8 at least.


Should I continue?

"most reliable" small cars, yaris, fit, corolla top 3. top 8 all import. family cars, one american car in top 8. upscale, no american. small suv, no american, mid suv, no american, large suv, no american, trucks, tundra and tacoma are top 2, f-150 3rd.

"least reliable" small car, american and vw. family, chevy leads, vw and volvo in the mix, no other imports. upscale, caddy leads with europeans followd. no imports. small suv, american. mid suv, no imports other than mazda. large suv, leads with chevy, gmc, hummer. 2 imports from nissan.
trucks, caddy leads with nssan and toyota in top 3 then back to american.

this is just from one source, i have others that basically show the same results.


p.s. i should also mention that i have certainly owned a few american vehicles that i was more than happy with. and a few imports i wouldn't recommend after owning.
 

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