Hell I think the regular Si(2 or 4 door) will do,TSX also,I think will

Do you guys not notice the massive amounts of body roll the fit has?

 

I think the TSX has more body roll than the Fit Remember weight has alot to do with body roll. Does the fit sport have the same susp. as the Base model? I've seen Fit sports do really well in Stock trim against modded cars at auto X

 

No, because I have a Progressive rear sway bar.

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So do I but I don't see how the TSX has less body roll than a fit. The weight of our cars are also helping alot

 

OEM to OEM,the tsx was just designed for more aggresive driving than the fit.


Think about the competition

tsx v. 3 series v.C class


fit v. versa?yaris?lol

 

your comparsison is interesting, because aside from the fact that tsx's usually get eaten up by stock 3 series) because you are now throwing in cars that are RWD.


the slalom test is what usually is a good indication of how well a car controls its body roll.

the fit actually does it better than the base versions of all the cars you just mentioned, and it does better than the si that some have mentioned.

what the fit doesn't do well in, is grip, which is an unfortunate side effect of tires.

the fit handles better than anything in its class, and can out-slalom anything in the class above it (mazda 3, civic, sentra et al) and is about on par if not better than the sportier versions of these cars. (si, mazdaspeed, se-r). where it gets beaten is the grip numbers and acceleration.


a couple more things:

1. the 'cheap skates' comparo that car and driver did with the famous 'fit is faster than a corvette in the lane change' deal IS true. But this isn't a good indicator of handling...it just shows that the fit can change directions quickly, thanks to a super quick steering rack.


2. the mugen si has actually been proven to handle not as well as the stock si with the optional michelin pilot sport tires. its a tick slower to 60, and aside from looks and a slighlty better slalom number, it grips less. (see car and drivers review.)

oh and it costs 30k.

 

it actually has very little for its class, and for a car in general. its no lotus, but still admirable for a such an inexpensive car.


handling is more than numbers though, so it would probably be best to say that the fit is as easy to toss around as some of these cars and puts up a good slalom (as good as them) but just doesn't grip as hard.

actually the fit gets a lot of comparisons to the mini, which takes all the good things about the fit and amplifies them even more. (point and go steering, even less body lean, but still not an amazing amount of grip.)

 

I haven't driven a TSX but from what I gather from riding in several is that they roll much more than my modded Fit, but less than a stock one. That $150 sway bar REALLY makes a difference.

 

...its not that it doesn't do it well, but I think that it could do it better.

yeah I dont think that is the best indicator, but it is still one none the less. Changing directions quickly is great...unless its unecessarily
squirrely.

I have heard that too! It was a bit surprising at first, then the idea of fading into fashion over function starts to set in like many things tend to do.

Here is the funny thing about body roll. IMH(of most H)O I think the Fit has very little of itcompared to most cars in similar situations and day to day driving. Butwhen pushed harder or really hard it rolls a bunch more. Well most of those other cars cannot even get to those particular limits.

Imagine if youdid not expand the width and length of those cars but raised the roof (hahaaa) to get similar height as the fit they would be even sloppier!
Imagine if you lowered the roof hieght of the Fit to the other cars...It
would be even more on rails. (I know this is sill to say but, Its impressive
when you consider the Fits native capacity)

I have a Consumer reports mag that list a bunch of performance
properties of cars, and I will look it up and post what matches or beats
the Fit...hopefully I can find it.

 

This is in no way the Holy Grail of anything nor does it mean its useless.
Numbers are only numbers, but this hopefully will be interesting to note.
The following are from CR (Consumer Reports) and it is their avoidance Manueuver test, from their test course. It is of the max speed while negotiating this maneuver.
CR "AM" tests results from 2007 Summer Guide-
I listed only the ones that did just as good or better than the base Fit,
an listed some that we discussed regardless...enjoy-

FIT BASE-55 mph
FIT SPORT-56 mph

Acura TSX- 52.5
Audi A4 2.0T- 55.5
BMW 325i- 55
BMW 650i- 55.5
BMW X3 3.0si- 55
BMW Z4 3.0i- 55.5
Chevrolet Corvette Z06- 56.5
Dodge Charger SXT- 55.5
Dodge Viper SRT10- 57
Ford Mustang GT Premium- 55
Honda Civic Si- 54.5
Honda Civic EX- 54
Honda S2000- 57
Hyundai Accent GLS- 55
Hyundai Sonata GLS (V6)- 55.5
Infiniti G35 Journey- 56.5
Infiniti G35 X- 55
Infiniti M35 X- 55
Kia Rio LX- 55.5
Kia Rio5 SX- 55
Lexus IS250- 55.5
Lotus Elise- 57
Mazda MX-5 Miata Grand Touring- 57.5
Mazda RX8- 56
Mercedes-Benz C230- 55.5
Mercedes-Benz SLK350- 55
Mini Cooper Convertible S- 57.5
Nissan 350Z Convertible Grand Touring- 57
Nissan Versa 1.8 S- 52
Nissan Versa 1.8 SL- 52
Pontiac Solstice- 56.5
Porsche 911 Carrera S- 59.5 GOOD LORD!!!
Porsche Boxster 2.7- 57.5
Saab 9-5 Base- 56
Toyota Yaris Base- 51.5
Toyota Yaris Hatchback Base- 51.5
Volkswagon GTI- 57

If you guys want more just ask and I will post it if I have it.
if any of you found this intersting and or useful and you happen to have an
itchy rep finger...then who am I to stop you ....hahahaaa

I was really surprised which cars were great and how many were...
ummm...how you say....ahhhh yes not so much!

enjoy

 

CR is bunch of crap when it comes to cars. even spelled infiniti incorrectly....

 

FF = Front engine, Front wheel drive.

(FR= Front Engine, Rear wheel drive)

 

That was me goofball, I made a typo (I typed up the whole thing)
I will correct it.

 

Porsche, FTW!

 

No kidden huh? Its pretty wicked.
Hahahaa, I figured you would respond

 

Solid gold!

FIT SPORT-56 mph

Acura TSX- 52.5

The TSX is a solid car don't get me wrong but it's not levels and levels above for handling. Plus it weighs a ton so that will hold it back for sure. 15.7 1/4 mile time with a K24. Now that spells heavy.

 

nice info. i guess this is like edmunds and car and drivers 'lane change test'. suprised to see that the gti did better than the si.


not suprised to see how well our fit did.

 

hahaha...

 

I don't know what an FF is if its not Formula Ford but I will say that the Fit is the best handling of the 3 econo sedans - Yaris, Versa, and Fit. Its not the fastest or roomiest; that goes to the Versa from tours on track with all 3 but if you take out the long straights it wins hands down.
When I get thru mine will have 1/2" lowered springs, LSD, better shockson front (rears already better with airlifts HD (we haul a couple of heavyweights in rear occasionally and like to adjust for them), 17" wheels with 205/40x17 tires, and disc brakes all around. Then we'll see just how well it handles around VIR.