AMAZING auto photographer/Siphon cover
#61
04-24-2008, 09:12 PM
in green below VVV (just wanted to mix it up a bit
)
)Amen, Fury.
As a fellow photographer, I'm with you on this. Time spent in Photoshop does not equate to being a good photographer.
Who thought that time spent behind a computer makes you a good photographer?
I do think this is a cool shot, but it was less about photography and more about graphic design. It was well-done, unquestionably, but could have been done by a computer geek who didn't own a camera, using stock photos.
Ouch! ^^^ And a sculptor can make due with never touching clay and just putting other objects together. Heck even a computer geek can do that. As compelling as your line may seem to be to you and possibly others, there is no negation in the substance of it.
I'm sure the photographer would agree on this.
I wouldn't put money on that. Not after all the effort that is put in. It sounds incredibly belittling.
Props to him on his Photoshop skills, though. I don't have the patience to be that good in Photoshop.
He definately found a niche that he has become very adept at.
As a fellow photographer, I'm with you on this. Time spent in Photoshop does not equate to being a good photographer.
Who thought that time spent behind a computer makes you a good photographer?
I do think this is a cool shot, but it was less about photography and more about graphic design. It was well-done, unquestionably, but could have been done by a computer geek who didn't own a camera, using stock photos.
Ouch! ^^^ And a sculptor can make due with never touching clay and just putting other objects together. Heck even a computer geek can do that. As compelling as your line may seem to be to you and possibly others, there is no negation in the substance of it.
I'm sure the photographer would agree on this.
I wouldn't put money on that. Not after all the effort that is put in. It sounds incredibly belittling.
Props to him on his Photoshop skills, though. I don't have the patience to be that good in Photoshop.
He definately found a niche that he has become very adept at.
#62
04-24-2008, 11:14 PM
Well, as seeing as I posted my last comment in here way back and I intend that to be my last comment about the whole thing going on here.
This thread is obviously going way off topic to what it was originally intended for.
I have my opinions and I have expressed them and there are many others that have done so as well. If I didn't feel it was a complete waste of time I would have sat here all week ( it was my week off ) and posted and flamed you all to death.
Before this happens ( won't be me posting and flaming ) I think a mod should come to their senses and shut this down and mabey tell those still left in this argument to start up a new thread arguing the difference between graphic design and photography or say enough is enough.
Just what I think is going to happen to this thread and have seen happen to threads like this on many forums.
don't make me say I told you so when it happens.....
This thread is obviously going way off topic to what it was originally intended for.
I have my opinions and I have expressed them and there are many others that have done so as well. If I didn't feel it was a complete waste of time I would have sat here all week ( it was my week off ) and posted and flamed you all to death.
Before this happens ( won't be me posting and flaming ) I think a mod should come to their senses and shut this down and mabey tell those still left in this argument to start up a new thread arguing the difference between graphic design and photography or say enough is enough.
Just what I think is going to happen to this thread and have seen happen to threads like this on many forums.
don't make me say I told you so when it happens.....
#63
04-25-2008, 04:06 AM
hmmm...what color now? hmmm... fine, blue FTW!
heehee
hmm... having to justify this post though is a bit off topic
Does it count, even if I am trying to explain how it is on topic?
(runs back inside the Fit... slams the door and ponders things more deeply)
heeheeThis thread is obviously going way off topic to what it was originally intended for.
I think this is still on topic. As the thread title reads "AMAZING auto photographer/siphon". We have all mentioned and continue to mention-
*why we like or disslike it
*Is it Amazing?
*what is it constructed of (constituent parts...like maybe techniques or ideas of graphic design)
*This particular photographers work
*Is he a photographer
*And specific techniques
I think those are all ^^^ on topic
Should we just have stuck to "yes it's Amazing" or "no it's not Amazing" ?
I have my opinions and I have expressed them and there are many others that have done so as well. If I didn't feel it was a complete waste of time I would have sat here all week ( it was my week off ) and posted and flamed you all to death.
Thanks for taking the high road. It is much appreciated
As I don't see the point in this "flaming" idea that seems so rampant.
Before this happens ( won't be me posting and flaming ) I think a mod should come to their senses and shut this down and mabey tell those still left in this argument to start up a new thread arguing the difference between graphic design and photography or say enough is enough.
I hope it doesn't come to that, as it would be really sad, it still looks as if everyone here continuing to be civil. And I see no reason why it shouldn't remain that way.
The recent disscusions seem to revolve more around what is photography and what is not in the context of this photographers art. Graphic design is being thrown in to show an alternative to what some might classify it as.
Just what I think is going to happen to this thread and have seen happen to threads like this on many forums.
Again, I just hope we are better than that here, and I believe we can be
don't make me say I told you so when it happens.....
Just don't wish for it and we will be ok, thanks for your concern though.
Actually now that I think of it you won't be able to if it gets locked (PM's aside of course) heehee
I think this is still on topic. As the thread title reads "AMAZING auto photographer/siphon". We have all mentioned and continue to mention-
*why we like or disslike it
*Is it Amazing?
*what is it constructed of (constituent parts...like maybe techniques or ideas of graphic design)
*This particular photographers work
*Is he a photographer
*And specific techniques
I think those are all ^^^ on topic
Should we just have stuck to "yes it's Amazing" or "no it's not Amazing" ?
I have my opinions and I have expressed them and there are many others that have done so as well. If I didn't feel it was a complete waste of time I would have sat here all week ( it was my week off ) and posted and flamed you all to death.
Thanks for taking the high road. It is much appreciated
As I don't see the point in this "flaming" idea that seems so rampant.
Before this happens ( won't be me posting and flaming ) I think a mod should come to their senses and shut this down and mabey tell those still left in this argument to start up a new thread arguing the difference between graphic design and photography or say enough is enough.
I hope it doesn't come to that, as it would be really sad, it still looks as if everyone here continuing to be civil. And I see no reason why it shouldn't remain that way.
The recent disscusions seem to revolve more around what is photography and what is not in the context of this photographers art. Graphic design is being thrown in to show an alternative to what some might classify it as.
Just what I think is going to happen to this thread and have seen happen to threads like this on many forums.
Again, I just hope we are better than that here, and I believe we can be
don't make me say I told you so when it happens.....
Just don't wish for it and we will be ok, thanks for your concern though.
Actually now that I think of it you won't be able to if it gets locked
(PM's aside of course) heehee Does it count, even if I am trying to explain how it is on topic?
(runs back inside the Fit... slams the door and ponders things more deeply)
#64
04-25-2008, 05:15 PM
anywho......
Everybody no matter how civil they are have their breaking point just would hate to see it come to that because some people feel very strongly about their opinion.
Just thought it may be a good idea for someone to keep an eye on this or mabey start a new thread discussing the difference between photography graphic design as is the guy who started this up was giving his props to a photographer not really asking for us to dweel deep into why this should or should not be photography.
This for sure for sure for sure for sure for sure my last post in this thread.
#66
04-25-2008, 09:07 PM
Geez, I didn't mean to sound disparaging. I think the guy's work looks cool! I just meant there's a lot of post-capture work there that makes this shot happen. He started out with a vision of what he wanted, and made it appear. So it's cool. I like it.
And Snap, there was no negation intended in saying it could have been done by a geek. I meant nothing negative whatsoever from word one.
And Snap, there was no negation intended in saying it could have been done by a geek. I meant nothing negative whatsoever from word one.
Last edited by Steeldog; 04-25-2008 at 09:15 PM.
#67
04-25-2008, 11:28 PM
too late my toes already fell off. ( aneurysm )
Jk... I know what an aneurysm is after all I do work in an E.R. .......
#69
04-25-2008, 11:53 PM
Geez, I didn't mean to sound disparaging. I think the guy's work looks cool! I just meant there's a lot of post-capture work there that makes this shot happen. He started out with a vision of what he wanted, and made it appear. So it's cool. I like it.
And Snap, there was no negation intended in saying it could have been done by a geek. I meant nothing negative whatsoever from word one.
And Snap, there was no negation intended in saying it could have been done by a geek. I meant nothing negative whatsoever from word one.
I didn't think you were being explicitly negative, I used negation to mean a refutation, or an opposition.
Anywho, I guess this thread indeed has run its course though, just like most threads eventually do (with out getting obsessed
)peace
#70
04-26-2008, 02:12 AM
I remember Steve from BACK in the day. He had such a clean EK! We were both on www.civichatchback.com. his photography has progressed alot. Here is his old site... optikdesign.net
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