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$1500 over MSRP!!!!!

Old Jun 22, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Studmf
Got my AT Sport OTD for 18.5K. Pretty sure thats over the MSRP, but they get it out here. Did I get screwed?
sorry to say you got screwed. buy 2 things.

1. Dealer mark-up here is a lot higher than the mainland
2. People who buy cars here complain about money yet they over-pay for everything and dealers/retailers cash in on it by ridiculous high pricing.

took 3 weeks to get it around MSRP +400(give or take) was the lowest i could go, but i did have 2 things on my side. I put 10k cash down and a trade-in. I told them if i didn't get the price for the fit i would go elsewhere i flashed the 10k and gave them 15 minutes and walked out. 3 weeks later they called me and asked if i bought a car.
 

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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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so what did you get yours OTD? We traded in and put 8k down.
 
Old Jun 22, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by briande
I saw Fit bases and Fit Sports online in the DE area. I contacted 2 dealers. One wanted $1k over MSRP and the other $1500 over MSRP for both models. WOW! Do you think they'll get it???????
Not from you, if you drive up to Allentown PA and get it for MSRP or less from Lehigh Valley Honda.
 
Old Jun 22, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Studmf
so what did you get yours OTD? We traded in and put 8k down.
4 season floormats, full nose mask, and the shift knob i got for around 16.3

MSRP is around 15.2 with the extra, and fees. with trade in and 10k down i only owed 1.1k

i have to find the documents, it's paid off already, so i am not sure i threw it away
 
Old Jun 22, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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on a side note did you check out Craigs? there's this one person selling their fit for $22k O.o like wth they got royally shafted!
 
Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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i hope you didn't go to phlueger... those guys are scam-artists. My friend works there, and always tells me go somewhere else for a honda.
 
Old Jun 22, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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I did see the Fit on Craigslist and contacted the seller to see if she actually gets that for it. I got my Fit from Windward, overall I am pretty happy with the experience, I still owe 5K though.
 
Old Jun 22, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Windward is still somewhat of a good spot to go. Have not been there recently. Tony went downhill when he retired and let his kids/managers do things, it was 10x better before that. Phlueger is omg don't go there. friend is a parts manager there and he didn't even buy his car from them, he went and got his S2k from California.
 
Old Jun 23, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dopple808
sorry to say you got screwed. buy 2 things.

1. Dealer mark-up here is a lot higher than the mainland
2. People who buy cars here complain about money yet they over-pay for everything and dealers/retailers cash in on it by ridiculous high pricing.

took 3 weeks to get it around MSRP +400(give or take) was the lowest i could go, but i did have 2 things on my side. I put 10k cash down and a trade-in. I told them if i didn't get the price for the fit i would go elsewhere i flashed the 10k and gave them 15 minutes and walked out. 3 weeks later they called me and asked if i bought a car.
Paying cash actually doesn't help you get the lowest price in most cases. The dealer gets a kickback from the financing so believe it or not they'd rather finance you then have you walk in with a cashiers check for the entire amount (which is what i did)
 
Old Jun 23, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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We have 2 Honda dealers in Tulsa so there's a war going on. One had Black AT with hail damage they offered to let go for sticker and they'll fix the damage. When I offered my trade (98 Jeep Wrangler with 158,000 miles.) they only offered a couple of thousand. Looking at gas prices now, I really can't blame them. Went to the other Honda dealer and it was like finding the Holy Grail...the model & color we were looking for sat right there on their showroom floor. After relaying that I had been to their competion looking, they offered $4500.00 for my trade and I jumped on it. Final tally: 2008 Fit Sport AT VBP @ $12,000.00 with trade. Good? I'm happy...
 
Old Jun 23, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Hopefully increasing production will help with the cost issue. From Autoblog today:

Like most other manufacturers doing business in the U.S., Honda has been caught by surprise by the sudden shift in demand to smaller cars. When the Fit debuted in the U.S. two years ago, it proved more popular than expected then and allotments were increased for the upcoming redesigned 2009 models. However, the spike in fuel prices has caused a corresponding increase in demand for small fuel efficient cars like the Fit. Sales of the old Fit from January to May of this year jumped 64 percent compared to 2007. Honda has now decided to bump production from 60,000 to 80,000 cars for the 2009 model year. The 2009 Fit has been rated at 28/34 mpg city/highway and will start at $14,620. U.S. production is limited because Honda only has capacity to build 500,000 Fits a year right now for the entire world, and if we get more in the U.S., someone else has to get less elsewhere in the world.


Honda boosting Fit production to meet U.S. demand - Autoblog
 
Old Jun 23, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Just bought a 08 Sport auto for invoice with mats and wheel locks. The deal was because my brother and I both bought one and it was the end of the month. Besides the dealer also has what is called holdback money which in the Sport is about $475. So with the sale of 2 they still made about $1,000. You usually can do better buying the car at the end of the month because of bonuses paid to the dealer based on number of units moved. Just an FYI cars were bought in central NJ.
 
Old Jun 23, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Dawg
You usually can do better buying the car at the end of the month because of bonuses paid to the dealer based on number of units moved. Just an FYI cars were bought in central NJ.
That is untrue... it just seems that way because the salesmen themselves are trying to hit bonus'. You can get the same deal at the beginning of the month that you would at the end of the month
 
Old Jun 23, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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I'd charge over msrp also if i knew some clown would come by and pay it. Don't blame the dealer....the egg is on the face of the idiot who wrote the check.
Exactly. There's morons every day that pay what the dealer asks. Because they dealer says "no", they think that's the bottom line. I'll never pay even MSRP for a new car.
 
Old Jun 23, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vtec just kicked in yo
Paying cash actually doesn't help you get the lowest price in most cases. The dealer gets a kickback from the financing so believe it or not they'd rather finance you then have you walk in with a cashiers check for the entire amount (which is what i did)
Depends what bank you go with. They do NOT get a kickback from a bank they do not work with. they can't underwrite anything without the appropriate licensing. it's against FTC regulations, and could be shutdown.

This is what Old Man Tony told me when i worked for him. it's worth dropping the price especially when people have the money in hand. less wheeling and dealing, and more time to get another person in a car. sure we may get a small cut, but the more cars of OURS is on the road, the more happy customers we get, the more referrals we get, and the more money overall we make.
 
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by briande
I saw Fit bases and Fit Sports online in the DE area. I contacted 2 dealers. One wanted $1k over MSRP and the other $1500 over MSRP for both models. WOW! Do you think they'll get it???????
Probably. $4/gal gas is a powerful persuader if you own a big 4x4.

For the rest of you:
How come you didn't know what MSRP was? The Moroney sticker is required by law to be given the customer at delivery either by hand or on the car (as many states require).
 
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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in all honesty. look at where the money is going especially if your old vehicle gets your 25 mpg, you gain an average of 6 mpg, yet you paid money to get the car. you end up taking money out of the gas companies and putting it in a car dealers/makers pocket.
 
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Road Dawg
Just bought a 08 Sport auto for invoice with mats and wheel locks. The deal was because my brother and I both bought one and it was the end of the month. Besides the dealer also has what is called holdback money which in the Sport is about $475. So with the sale of 2 they still made about $1,000. You usually can do better buying the car at the end of the month because of bonuses paid to the dealer based on number of units moved. Just an FYI cars were bought in central NJ.
I'd say you were lucky. But it is true that as 'bonus' periods end you can get a better deal if the dealer is 'on the line' between getting his 'bonus' or not.
I sold cars after selling my company (non-compete clause)and I can vouch for the 'bonus' system. Collected it a few times myself when we exceeded our 'target'.
 
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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There's some truth in that. The dealer sold 2 the day I was negotiating on mine and I live in a relatively small town. They moved very little on it all, citing the low mark-up (that Bonsaikc mentioned in his comments earlier) as the main reason. They know they can sell it to someone else anyway. Honda is in a good position right now with these cars and they know it. A year or two ago that probably wasn't the case, before gas prices starting rising so dramatically, but it is now.
It's true that they are hard to get and keep. However, we aren't in that great a position right now because I don't have any to sell, and it's hard to get some folks to plunk down a deposit check on a car that won't be here for three weeks.

As to worrying about allowing the dealer to make $500 on a $15000 car, do what you wish. I give great service and make my customers happy they came to deal with me. There's never confrontation, and I like my customers and they like me.

It's a great product and well worth MSRP. Nobody is getting screwed by paying MSRP on a Fit. Get real. Get a great car.
 
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bonsaikc
It's true that they are hard to get and keep. However, we aren't in that great a position right now because I don't have any to sell, and it's hard to get some folks to plunk down a deposit check on a car that won't be here for three weeks.

As to worrying about allowing the dealer to make $500 on a $15000 car, do what you wish. I give great service and make my customers happy they came to deal with me. There's never confrontation, and I like my customers and they like me.

It's a great product and well worth MSRP. Nobody is getting screwed by paying MSRP on a Fit. Get real. Get a great car.

I agree.
I bought the car because its what I wanted.
 

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