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Old May 16, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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I am certain that Honda has more than one OEM partner. Their business can't be counting on one single vendor.

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Old May 16, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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man i hope you guys get your manuels...automatic is not the same when you like drivnig stick
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by claymore
Honda or any new vehicle manufacturer in this day and age do not purchase their transmissions 6 months in advance. All of them now use the "Just in time method" where the parts arrive just in time for use. They save millions by not having to maintain any inventory and just leave their money hanging around tied up in inventory not making any profit.
Show me a company that doesn't have a signed contract with the entent to purchase W amount of X items at Y price for Z amount of time. Thats the only way they know their cost to produce a vehicle. They don't have 6 months worth of transmissions sitting in a warehouse.
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FitCustomer
Do you really believe that your dealer has that kind of information? Some sales guy in the USA?

I would rather believe your dealer goes bankrupt before Honda's
MT supplier.
The "sales guy" in question is the sales manager responsible for a few dealerships. The "sales guy" in question goes to meetings on a regular basis to fight over alotment of Fits, colours, trim levels and type of transmissions.

This is not the shmoe on the sales floor that knows nothing. And this is in Canada, not the US (not that it should matter). This dealership is running at maximum capacity. They won’t be going under anytime soon.
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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do you think that a big multinational corp will hinge their whole operation on ONE supplier?

if you look at distributor caps, they have like 3 or 4 different OEM manufacturers..

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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Honda has been on a big push the last few years with AT sport shift. The prelude, RSX and now the Fit. I just don't get it??? It is lost on me, kind of seems pointless. Is thier anyone out thier that can honestly say they like sport shift AT.

I love the paddle-shifting 5AT, and I am definately a MT guy, this is my wife's car, but I love to drive it.
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Of course they may have more one than supplier for parts. But don’t compare a distributor cap to a transmission. The distributor cap is something extremely simple to manufacture.

Where as a transmission requires production of various gears, bearings, rods, shims, shafts, etc., all parts that need to be produced before assembling the transmission and shipping it to Honda. The automatic and manual transmissions share next to nothing, so ones the transmission manufacturer has ordered the parts to build a specific ratio of manual and automatic transmissions, they can’t exactly build more manual transmissions just like that.

Honda could request more manual transmissions, but since it would be a smaller order, they would be charged more and that would cut the profit margin yet again.
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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as i stated the distributor cap is just one example..

again, i ask, you think that a big multi national is going to hinge their entire product line on one manufacturer? it's like McDonalds buying their french fries from one guy

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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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I am enjoying my Automatic. It is so nice not to be shifting in traffic. The sport mode is terrific! It allows you control over your r.p.m.'s just like a stick which is nice ascending or decending twisties or mountainous roads so you are not riding the brake. Paddle shifters are a $1000.00 premium on a Porsche!
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sillypuddy
again, i ask, you think that a big multi national is going to hinge their entire product line on one manufacturer?
It doesn't matter how many companies are making their transmissions. The suppliers still need to order various parts, and Honda would still have a contract stating how many per week, over how long, and what type they need.

Don't forget Honda is producing more than just the Fit, and odds are they don't deal with 1000s of transmission suppliers. They probably have about a dozen to cover all the models they produce. Too many suppliers and odds are quality control would be impossible.

It's not like walking into the local pizzaria and ordering a large peperoni pizza.
 
Old May 16, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by b17gsr
The "sales guy" in question is the sales manager responsible for a few dealerships. The "sales guy" in question goes to meetings on a regular basis to fight over alotment of Fits, colours, trim levels and type of transmissions.

This is not the shmoe on the sales floor that knows nothing. And this is in Canada, not the US (not that it should matter). This dealership is running at maximum capacity. They won’t be going under anytime soon.
I was posting in reply to the dealer/"sales guy" in cheffyjay's post. cheffyjay already
responded to my post.

Did you speak to the same dealer? Are you posting under different aliases? Are you cheffyjay's dealer?
 

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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Sorry, I thought the original comment was aimed at me.
 
Old May 17, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cheffyjay
Honda dealer today told me that MT was in short supply on the Civic and Fit due to bankrupcy re-organization of the supplier for the 5-speed gearbox on these cars. Can anyone confirm this?
I don't know about the Japanese built FiT but USDM Civics have their trannys built here in Ohio and the the dealer is flat out lying about Civic manual trans production
 
Old May 17, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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I got my Vivid Blue 5MT, I'm not trippen.
 
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