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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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Sounds good either way!
 
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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I did mine at 3K. I couldnot wait until 5-6K. The oil was pretty worn, Not all dead. My good friend a highly trained mechanic who owns a honda Accord. regrets not changing his at 3k ( he did his at 5K, the way Honda states).
Anyway my car Survived and I just feel this was the way to go.
PS I really dont believe all this sealer stuff in the oil.
 
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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The oil was pretty worn, Not all dead.
Where did you have your oil an@lysis done? (The forum edited the first four letters of an@lysis. LOL)
 
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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I guess I will change my oil ASAP
 
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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i do mine at every 4000km on all my hondas (3 right now)

4 000 kilometers = 2 485.48477 miles

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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sillypuddy
i do mine at every 4000km on all my hondas (3 right now)

4 000 kilometers = 2 485.48477 miles

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hmmm

If you use your car not for racing, i think its not needed to change it that often.

Why do you do it?
 
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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oh snap

Originally Posted by fm2n
The FIT uses the same oil filter as the Honda Accord V6 2005. Use that as your search when looking through the catalog.

I really wanted to try Penzoil Platinum 5-20 Syn, but I couldn't find it anywhere locally. So I've bought a 5 liter jug of Havoline 5-30 as it is high in Moly content. I will be switching it out at 2500 Miles. I also bought Motorcraft 5-20 Syn-Blend from walmart and will be running that shortly after. After that, another change with Castrol Syn-Blend 5-20 before going to full synthetic.
I used a Honda Civic filter on mine!!!
 
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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I used a Honda Civic filter on mine!!!
As long as it's the ST7317 equivilent it should work out fine.
 
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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I have a problem believing that the oil that comes in the engine from the factory is "special" in any way. If there was such a thing don't you believe that Honda (or any other manufacturer) would be securing bragging rights to this feature? These guys make cars, not oil. If anything, just "normal" oil would be needed to secure the cylinder rings breaking in properly. I'd think twice about replacing oil in the early miles with synthetics for this reason.

Personally, I'll be draining my oil today and replacing it with 5-20 "Dyno" oil and new filter. I have 300 miles on mine and if there's any initial break-in that's occurred the maximum oil contamination (metal) will be concluded by now so I want to get that out and fresh in. This may be extreme but it's worked well for me since the 60's and for the few bucks it costs it's cheap insurance. The next change will probably be after another 1000, then 2000 then every 3000 for the life of the car, where I'll start using 100% Synthetic.

This may not hold true for these little engines, but when Formula 1 and the like race engines are built they're first run on a dyno and the oil is immediatly dumped and replaced with fresh. These guys must know something, right?

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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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I'd like to think the mfr does know what they are talking about.
 
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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If the engineers felt that after only three hundred miles the oil should be changed, then they would have recommended it. They are, after all, the people who spent a lot of time designing the engine. I personally think it is a waste of time for you to change the oil after 300 miles and think that you did a positive thing. Also to keep in mind, metals and engine design have changed tremendously since the 60's and for anyone that has sat in the "cockpit" of the Fit, you should know that it no formula racer....
 
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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omg, I have the strange feeling you foks are taking this oil discussion too serrious

I have it written in my user manual (European JAZZ, engine L13A (1,3L)) that the engine oil should be changed every 20.000km (if the car is normally used - at least 5km routes).

I have done 5.000km and the oil hasn't changed significally - read: the oil looks almost like new (it became lightly darker).

So, changing oil quicker is not needed at all.

In the past 10 years, oil manufacturers have done significant progress towards making the oil better (more resistant). You can ask any expert on that and he will give you a positive answer, belive me.

 
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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I always thought the most important part of the oil change is changing the oil filter?!
 
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mjrossman17
If the engineers felt that after only three hundred miles the oil should be changed, then they would have recommended it. They are, after all, the people who spent a lot of time designing the engine. I personally think it is a waste of time for you to change the oil after 300 miles and think that you did a positive thing. Also to keep in mind, metals and engine design have changed tremendously since the 60's and for anyone that has sat in the "cockpit" of the Fit, you should know that it no formula racer....
I won't *argue* with anything you state but just because the manufacturer/engineers say to wait x amount of miles between changes doesn't mean that's best thing to do. Can you, as the consumer, be certain that these initial long (IMHO) intervals between changes are, in the long run, the best thing for the engine? As far as a waste of time and money, a lousy 1/2 hour and $15 isn't putting me into the poor house, and certainly can't hurt anything. As I stated previously, this is just good insurance. Now, if I had suggested waiting 7000 miles to change the oil, that would've required a negative response.

Yes, things have changed since the 60's but did you think I was stating that I haven't had a new car since then? Granted, my newest next to this Fit is my 94 Twin Turbo Supra ($50K plus which was a pile back then), but I treated this car exactly as I described that I'll be treating this little Honda. To date, with almost 100K miles, the Supra compression is right on and it runs as strong and smooth as the day it was new. Will the Fit hold up as well? I would hope so given the lack of power per cubic inch compared to the Supra pushing 450 at the wheels.

As far as your statement regarding sitting in the cockpit of the Fit and comparing it to a Formula 1, that was a silly thing to say; you knew exactly what the point was. The bottom line is that anyone is welcome to treat their car as they wish but as this is a discussion group I contributed what I believe to it. Take it or leave it, no problem to me.

bob
 
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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first oil change

How many of you waited for the on board computer to read 10% before having the first oil change ?

This is what the dealership and US Honda recommend.

I am at 5100 miles and reading 50%. It may be over 7k by the time I reach 10 % !

They couldn't give me an answer as to whether a 'granny-like' driving mode would fool the computer.
 
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Many new cars have a 7,500 mi oil change schedule, but most Fit owners seem to have gone with 5,000 to "be safe". I used to change my Miata every 3,000 like in the "old" days, but with my Fit I've gone with the 5,000 mi schedule too.
 
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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Yeah, I think the manual and the dealer told me to do it ~7000 miles. I've previously done it every 3000 miles, but i think the oil change indicator does actually take into account the condition of your oil, rather than just doing the calculation based on how many miles you drive. I'm around 4K miles and i've been at 50% oil for a little while.

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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by spreadhead
I have been changing my oil @ 5K with dino oil for several years, never had an engine failure. On the Fit I plan on following the maintenance minder, which means I will change it every 6K or so (I'm at 4.5K with 40% oil life remaining, plan on changing it @ 15%). The manual says specifically not to change the break-in oil early, so I wouldn't. That being said if someone else is paying for your oil changes why not change it every 3750. If you change your oil early and reset the maintenance minder how will you know what other maintenance needs to be done and when?
Hmmm,, i am at 4400 miles and at 15 % will be calling to schedule an oil change because the maintenance light came on.

does it sound right to be at 15% so early on? i bought my Fit on May 29 off the dealer lot.

i have had gas mile issues and have had my hood and roof painted. I have taken a break from argueing with Honda over the gas miliage but now i am concerned about the early oil change warning.

any thoughts?
 
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by roenyc
Hmmm,, i am at 4400 miles and at 15 % will be calling to schedule an oil change because the maintenance light came on.

does it sound right to be at 15% so early on? i bought my Fit on May 29 off the dealer lot.

i have had gas mile issues and have had my hood and roof painted. I have taken a break from argueing with Honda over the gas miliage but now i am concerned about the early oil change warning.

any thoughts?
Mine went to 15% at 6.7K miles. My driving is mostly highway, you probably do more city driving than me.
 
Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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i do almost all city. stop and go. i only ask because when i bought this car there was some oil on the engine to the left of the thing that says V-tech. it might have been greese i dont know.

i asked the salesmen if that was something i should be concerned about and he said (of course) no - thats nothing. at the time i was still a bit worried but it was hot and i was wrecked by then and just wanted to drive the car home.
 
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