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Old May 30, 2011 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by polaski
I'd like to share some info about the oil pressure lights if I could.

The oil pressure system works like this: assuming fully warmed oil, the oil pump generates the lowest pressure at idle and higher pressure as it spins faster, to a point. It will get to the relief pressure and a valve will bypass some of it to keep it at the set pressure.

On older Hondas (and I don't see why they'd change it on new ones) the warm relief pressure was in the neighborhood of 65-80 psi, and the engine would have this from middle-high rpm on up. Pressure at cruising speed would be in the 30s, up into the 40s psi on the highway.

However, at idle, the pump would keep about 10 psi of pressure in the system. Because of this the pressure light would have to trigger lower than this (typically 5 psi or less) to avoid the light flashing and scaring drivers during hot summer red lights.

This is why when if you're going down the highway and when your oil runs out your engine's pressure drops from 40 psi down towards zero, the engine will starve for oil for a few seconds as it damages all the rod bearings before the pressure drops low enough to trip the light. Sorry fact but that's the way it tends to go.
Great point!!!

The light only triggers if the pressure is below 5psi.

Still doesn't explain why the opening poster had an empty/ dry dip stick with no light on.

Like was said above, most likely, he left some vital info out of his post.
 
Old May 30, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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The OP left out a lot of info. OIL type,oil filter, how may times he changed it and driving style. I check my oil every 2 weeks and you would know if there was a problem of oil usage. Honda puts the additive package on the pistons to help with oil consumption. Moly fills the holes for a proper seal and synthetics wash it away so I believe that why Honda doesn't recommend synthetics but semi synthetic is OK. My 2004 civic started to have a little oil consumption problem at 45000 miles that I would have to add about a quart every 5000/6000 miles and I used M1.

Lots of good info in this thread, thanks for sharing.
 
Old Jun 5, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Schadenfreude
You're right, that's about twice as often as you should be changing it. The 3000 mile oil change is a long outdated standard. Not only is it a waste of money, It actually does more harm than good.

Agreed...Oil ideas have been proven to pad the pockets of the people in power and not necessarily serve the needs of of modern engines...
 
Old Jun 13, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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Anyone else feel like the O. Poster left us hanging with no update on this?

Was look forward to hearing how this turned out.
 
Old Jun 13, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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One of the many reasons I wish the Fit had a driver information center worth a damn. Oil pressure, oil temperature, water temperature, all would have been handy in this case.

Then again he didn't realize his engine was bone dry so maybe not.
 
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