Waiting at the start of the Test and tune day.
Stock wheels and tires.

Those stock tires didn't do that well and handling wasn't crisp. I'd say avoid autocross with stock tires if you can.


Cruising alone with Kumho V710 205/50-15 R compound tires and stock sized 15x6 Sport Edition D4 rims +50 offset.

I tired but could not beat the first in H-stock Toyota Corolla running on Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R tires, he's been getting 2nd place all season and got 34.784 seconds best run. 47th raw time, 20th overall with handicap for class.

I finished 2nd out of 7 in class with best run at 35.814 seconds, 67th out of 102 raw times and 32nd with handicap (PAX) for the day. The Fit handled well enough but I needed much more power for the course that event. Auto transmission wasn't working for me. It was fun to drive.

Our places overall were helped by wet weather in the first heat which slowed the faster cars in that session by 1 to 2 seconds.

 

See also post #46 in
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...tml#post250786

The Fit is fun to drive at autocross. Just needs a manual transmission and about 25 more HP.

 

Next autocross is march 30th at Aloha Stadium lower parking lot.

After that it's April 13 then a huge break until July 13.

Bring your Fit and try it out or just come by to talk and check out the cars.:vt ec:

 

This sunday is the autocross at Aloha Stadium lower parking lot.

Come to watch or drive (sign up at 7am for best chance to drive) but no SUVs or minivans allowed to drive.

It's the first event of the new season.

: vtec:

 

Hi Brad,

08FitSport, myself, and my little nephew went to check out the SCCA Event @ the Aloha Stadium today. We got to watch the 9:30 and 12:30 heats. This was the 1st SCCA Event I've been to. It was interesting seeing the varying cars (makes, mods, & setups) tearing around the track....& comparing their lap times. Didn't see any Fits though. We tried to look for you, but no luck. Anyways, it was a pretty cool experience.

 

Oops, I missed seeing you.

Next time if you come by you can ask for me at the sign in gate. I don't have the Fit to drive, it's just not competitive. So I have to fall back on my old car a MINI.
Check out Street Modified (SM) class.

Here are the results-
http://www.sccahawaii.org/3-30-08.pdf

Next event is sunday April 13th same format.

Race #2 - April 13
Heat 1: All Stock
Heat 2: All Street Prepared & EM
Heat 3: All Street Modified & DM
Heat 4: All Street Touring & Prepared


If you come by at the end of the day about 330pm I can take you out as a passenger- wear shoes. Riders must be at least 14 years old. No slippers or sandals.
I will drive in heat 3 after lunch on April 13.

I was driving in heat 4 at the end of the day yesterday.
I wasn't able to make the most of the course and mostly took the turns too fast leading to massive understeer and lost time. Just trying to go too fast and it cost me.

In the fun runs I changed to street tires and managed a 39.97 second run with a passenger. With R compound tires that would have translated to about 37.9 seconds are would have been much better. The car probably could have done 37.4 with more skill.

Try to come to the April 13 event since the next one after that is July 13.

Think about driving your Fit. Street tires are ok, runs are only 40 seconds and go by very quickly.

 

Howzit MINI-Fit,

Congratulations on your class win. Raton and I were there from the beginning. Sorry we left before your heat. We were hoping to see the BOM Fit smoke the HS class, that corolla looked wicked fast for all stock though.

What are the different classes? Does all stock mean no mods at all. (intake, headers, frame stiffeners etc.) Can anyone just do time trials at the end?

 

The Corolla did well, I faced him two events ago in my Fit Sport and got 2nd, about 1 second behind him. This event he got 43.66 seconds for 71st place overall out of 112. With an automatic transmission there is little chance that I would be able to beat him. All others in H stock class I could handle OK. Actually there are two identical Corollas in H stock.

There are many classes-
Stock classes from Super Stock like corvettes, porsche GT3 and Lotus Elise down to normal sedans in H-stock.
Street Touring classes for 4 seat and 2 seaters based on engine size and limited to running street tires. The best example was the RX8 silver with body kit running in Street Touring Unlimited, he got 38.89 seconds good for 15th overall.
There there are Street Performance classes- like B Street performance featuring Datsun 240 Zs (including the best time of the day), Honda S2000s and BMW M3s. C Street Performance with Toyota MR2s and M3s and a whole bunch of drivers in D Street Performance.
Prepared and modified classes allow for more engine and body changes and are not always street legal, more track cars or highly modified.
Street Modified- any increase boost or engine swap with 4 seats
Street Modified 2 for similar with 2 seats.

Generally 2 seat cars don't compete against 4 seat cars.
Trucks fall in various classes.

Stock class doesn't mean all stock- you can still-
use any drop in air filter
change plugs or spark plug wires, engine oil
do any alignment
add crash bolts to help alignment
use any cat back exhaust
any front anti-roll bar
any tires that fit on stock wheels including R compound tires
any rollbar
any harness system
any brake pads or brake pad fluid
remove anything that is not fastened down- mats, spare tire, tool kit, hub covers, cargo security cover, etc.

At the end of the day are fun runs, all drivers with cars driven in that event can drive for $1 per run. If you did not drive you cannot drive in fun runs and you need to use a car that ran that event (since it was tech inspected for safety). You can ride along with a driver if you have shoes and a helmet and you are at least 14 years old. Only one passenger per car.

 

112 cars at the last event.

Some examples-


MG Midget (100 HP) in G- Prepared class


1994 Porsche 996 GT3 with race tires (Hoosier) in Super Stock class


Lotus Elise with stock tires in Super Stock class (his boss owns the car)


Small but fast FSAE racer in B- Modified class (got 4th fastest raw time) driven by three UH engineering students.


Datsun 240Z with race rubber (2nd fastest raw time) in Street Mod 2 class


2006 Miata with 18" wheels and Kumho V710s in Street Mod 2 class (3rd fastest raw time)

View more pics-
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A few more pictures from the last event-


Nice RX8 with body kit and Yokohama Neova tires in Street Touring Unlimited (5th overall with PAX handicap). A rising star!


!st place overall and on handicap- 1971 Datsun 240Z in B-Street Performance class.


Toyota MR2 in C-Street Performance class (5th fastest raw time)

 

how often do you guys do this, i keep trying to catch it just to watch, but i never can.

 

Next Event is July 13 same location.

Normally one or two events per month from July through the summer then one per month to the end of the season in February or March 2009

For complete information on SCCA Hawaii see
Welcome to SCCA Hawaii Region Web

The schedules are released officially as the season goes on but I can check specific dates if you have a month in mind.

 

awesome, mahalos for the good info.

 

Good to see another Fit at autocross today.

Tom did a great job for his first time out. Thanks to Randy for his help.

Hope you all had a good time.

Next event is sunday Aug 31.

Any new drivers must sign in to register as a walk up between about 715 and 815am to be sure to get a spot. Registration at 1130 only for prereg online by members or past autocross drivers.

Bring water, hat, sunblock, and chair if you can find the space. a 1/4th tank of gas is usually plenty.

 

Next autocross dates-

Pre-registration is done from Saturday 9am the week before the event and stays open online until monday.

Aug 31
Sept 28
Nov 2
Nov 16
Dec 14
Jan (TBA)
January Possible Test and Tune/Practice day
Feb (TBA)
Runoff in March 2009

April 2009 New season starts for 2009-2010.

Any new driver or any member/driver that didn't pre-reg needs to sign up for registration in person via walk up early in the morning about 715 to 815am to be safe. No walk ups will be allowed for 1130 registration (only online pre-reg drivers).

Anytime you pay for the weekend SCCA pass you can apply it to the full annual membership which runs for 12 months from the time you get it and if you attend even three events it pays for itself.

 

Thanks Brad for all the help from walking the course to helpful tips. Your a very good coach. I had a lot of fun.

Hopefully next time I can stay till the end so we can do some fun runs.

To all Hawaii Fits, come out it's fun in the sun but, if you plan to spend the day bring a supa big hat and a lot of sunscreen. There no where to hide from the sun unless you bring a tent. Spectators have a shaded area but, got to kapu a spot early on.

 

Ken took tons of pics (total 2498) from the 8/3/08 SCCA event @ the Aloha Stadium. You can view all of them at: Kenolio's Fun Reflections- powered by SmugMug
- Tom's 1st run (pg.3)
- Tom's 2nd run (pg. 42)
- Tom's 3rd run (pg. 79)
- Tom's 4th run (pg. 117)
- Brad's 1st run (pg. 135)
- Brad's 2nd run (pg. 185)
- Brad's 3rd run (pg. 199)

Here's some pics of 08FitSport (Tom) running his Fit:
>> Here we go...:

>> the 1st slalom:

>> entering a sweeping loop:

>> loooooping:

>> still looping:

>> weeeee!!:

>> ...rounding the hair-pin turn:

>> ...final slaloms:


>> ...and the finish:

>> More misc 08FitSport pics:



Thanks Brad for taking me out on those 5 fun runs! That was totally awesome!!!!!

Here's some pics from Brad's 4th heat runs:

>> Whipping around the 1st slaloms:

>> ...flying around the big right-hand loop: Weeeeeeeeee!!

>> ...continue the loop:



More pics:





Again...Thanks Brad! It was a very informative, eye-opening, and great time! And Congrats Tom! Great driving!

See yawl @ the 8/31/08 SCCA event. I'm hoping to give it a try too.

 

Raton,

Thanks to Ken for the pictures. Excellent job! You can see Tom's nearly riding on the front rims in some of the hardest turns. More air needed!

From our fun runs you can tell that to cut times you have to really be pushing your car at the limit at all times and nearly on the brink of loosing control but still drive as cleanly through the course.

One good driver said you have to drive like a "madman".

Skill is a big factor, in the 240Z that got Fastest time of the day, Curtis drives with his daughter and wife and their times are separated by about 1 or 2 seconds each. Same car, same ideas on how to drive but different abilities and levels of courage to drive as cleanly as possible.

Right now in Hawaii Region the competition is very keen with about 7 to 10 drivers are are always at the top.

In the beginning new drivers will always have a hard time matching the experienced drivers. Most of the time it's because the novice drivers are on street tires which are usually All Season. Switching to any of the Extreme Performance Summer tires (check out the newest due out soon- Kumho XS or Bridgestone Potenza RE-11) helps nearly as much as R compound tires (and are legal for Street Touring classes).

We expect that in January or Feb of 2009 we will be getting a date to do practice autocrossing for a day. It's called test and tune and we will have instructors allday and you get in about 15 to 20 runs. Usually there are 5 or 6 time periods and you work one and drive in the others. You can stay part or all of the day. The times are recorded but they are not counted as an official event.

Street Touring S is a good class for the Fit with upgraded wheels but the missing link would be good sticky tires. Save the All Seasons for the street.
No R compounds but plenty of great street tires are possible that will work with the Fit.

 

Thank you!!!, Randy and Ken for the pics can't wait till next time.

Man my front tire looks flat with 32 #s of air. It took 48 #s to raise it to match the rears and put 42 #s in the rear for more roll. Federal 595 are so soft maybe that's what drifting tires are supposed to do. Checked the Federal site it states 36 #s max. I hope I don't get a blow out.

Raton's next, whoop whoop. August 31, be there!!!!

 

Oh man! The August 31 autocross was so much fun!!!

It was really great to "unleash" the Fit and see how it handles on the autocross course. I was really surprised! It handled the turns and slaloms pretty well. It was 2nd gear through most of the course. The acceleration felt pretty decent to me, a 1st-time autocrosser.

It was funny...prior to my 1st run (of 4) I just wanted to complete the course w/o killing too much cones and not flipping my car. haha. After that, it was fun trying to push it more and more. It was great to have Brad in the car for the 1st three runs advising where to get on the throttle and how to take certain turns and curves. Thanks Brad!! Much mahalos!!

08FitSport (Tom) and I were the two Fits that ran yesterday. Thanks for the support Tom!

Again, it was a blast!!

Hawaii FitFreaks...you should give it a try.

Here's info from the SCCA HI web-site (Welcome to SCCA Hawaii Region Web). From what I understand the "Test & Tune" event is a good time to get more in-depth driver instruction & allot of practice runs. The following are new event dates (all Sundays):

• 10/5/2008
• 11/2/2008
• 11/16/08
• 12/14/08
• 1/11/2009
• 1/25/2009 (Test & Tune)
• 2/15/2009
• 3/8/2009 (Year-end championship run-off)
• 3/22/2009 (1st event of new season)
• 4/12/2009