Drove Fit and spit in dealers' face...
#43
"I sell all my cars below cost. I make my money on VOLUME!" Seriously...Well done to those honest dealers. I hope they sell everything they've got and the gougers become nothing more than supply-points for dealer-trades.
#44
Dammit man i got mine for msrp. i am amazed that these dealers that do that try to get away with marking up the price of the car...no price was discussed i knew that the sticker price was the cost. so F**k those dealers and their scams
#45
That's a rather emotional way of saying it, but supply and demand is a simple fact of life in a mostly free market economy. If people buy it with the mark-ups, that is their perogative, and you can't fault the dealer for making as much as he can on whatever he sells. He has a mortgage, bills and kids that need to go to college, too. The car business is an interesting animal. When was the last time you asked a retailer what the invoice price is on anything else you buy?
#46
At the same time though, we ask about the invoice price on the car because car dealers have built a reputation for screwing their customers. And while I agree that the salesmen need to make a living too, I think the whole inovice price bit has just naturally grown out of customers' need to protect themselves thanks to this reputation...and the dealers have no one but themselves to blame for that.
#47
Originally Posted by BKKJack
That's a rather emotional way of saying it, but supply and demand is a simple fact of life in a mostly free market economy. If people buy it with the mark-ups, that is their perogative, and you can't fault the dealer for making as much as he can on whatever he sells. He has a mortgage, bills and kids that need to go to college, too. The car business is an interesting animal. When was the last time you asked a retailer what the invoice price is on anything else you buy?
Last edited by Paulo107; 04-24-2006 at 01:17 PM.
#48
Originally Posted by plus_c
At the same time though, we ask about the invoice price on the car because car dealers have built a reputation for screwing their customers. And while I agree that the salesmen need to make a living too, I think the whole inovice price bit has just naturally grown out of customers' need to protect themselves thanks to this reputation...and the dealers have no one but themselves to blame for that.
Has anyone ever thought whey dealers prefer not to give invoice pricing? Because 99% of consumers are unreasonable and want to buy the car for what dealers own it for. No good can come from that situation. Either they lose a sale, or lose profit. It doesn't matter which, because they both end in $0 profit.
All I'm saying is that I should be able to sell a car and make money. Yes, I realize dealers have a bad rep., but its not because of most dealers current practices its based on stereotypes of the past (past = pre-internet or older). Do your homework, dont try to screw the dealer, be reasonable and try to reach an amiable agreement. Its not that difficult or complicated. If anyone would like advice on how do to this, let me know.
#49
Originally Posted by tman_00
That's nothing!! People in Hawaii (not me) are paying $19,100 out the door (minus the fees and taxes).
#50
Dealers...
I realize that there are car salesmen on this forum. But do they have to whine about how their job sucks?
I stand by my convictions that a dealer should NEVER make the price of a car above MSRP +destination fees.
It would be wrong to go to Best Buy and buy a stereo that is more exspensive than MSRP and Yes I can find out MSRP for a stereo online it is not just the car market that lets you see that.
Ohh yeah also you can find out "dealer cost" for a "stereo" just as easily as a car. The mark up on most retail goods is 100% I worked at retail shops for 4 years. That is how businesses have 50% off (or more) sales.
Dealers should find a way to stick to MSRP. Why mark up from that point? It is PURE GREED!
I stand by my convictions that a dealer should NEVER make the price of a car above MSRP +destination fees.
It would be wrong to go to Best Buy and buy a stereo that is more exspensive than MSRP and Yes I can find out MSRP for a stereo online it is not just the car market that lets you see that.
Ohh yeah also you can find out "dealer cost" for a "stereo" just as easily as a car. The mark up on most retail goods is 100% I worked at retail shops for 4 years. That is how businesses have 50% off (or more) sales.
Dealers should find a way to stick to MSRP. Why mark up from that point? It is PURE GREED!
#52
Please throwing mud won't win you any more friends. The Fit only has a about 600 dollar mark up from invoice. Please don't pay 2000 over MSRP and dealers won't sell them for it. and Please go to best buy and tell them that you want a stereo for half off cause thats what they paid and they will tell you to hit the bricks.
Many people paid 3 to 4k over msrp for the toyota prius... cause stupid people were convinced that... it was worth it.... also the PT cruiser.... ok the PT cruiser people felt stupid the next day and the Pruis people a week later......
Car sales man have a very stressfull job.
Many people paid 3 to 4k over msrp for the toyota prius... cause stupid people were convinced that... it was worth it.... also the PT cruiser.... ok the PT cruiser people felt stupid the next day and the Pruis people a week later......
Car sales man have a very stressfull job.
Last edited by TeamKO; 04-25-2006 at 12:37 AM.
#53
Originally Posted by frossie
Somebody posted this on another thread:
http://www.honda.co.jp/Fit/color/index.html
You could go down and ask him if the first car on the third row and the last car in the fourth row look the same to him
http://www.honda.co.jp/Fit/color/index.html
You could go down and ask him if the first car on the third row and the last car in the fourth row look the same to him
AAAAAH!!!!!!
Why did you post that link!!! Now I know that there are PURPLE Fits out there - I'm so bummed! I just got the Blaze Orange Metallic AT Sport, and I love it, but PURPLE...oh.....what a dream that would be!
#54
positve things to say about dealers
In U.S.A. washington state Bellingham North West Honda is great
NW honda if you see this post I am still waiting for my honda fit brochure. They are sending them free on the honda.com web site. Thank you
NW honda if you see this post I am still waiting for my honda fit brochure. They are sending them free on the honda.com web site. Thank you
Last edited by big Fit; 06-10-2006 at 03:15 AM.
#55
Originally Posted by drknife
I realize that there are car salesmen on this forum. But do they have to whine about how their job sucks?
I stand by my convictions that a dealer should NEVER make the price of a car above MSRP +destination fees.
It would be wrong to go to Best Buy and buy a stereo that is more exspensive than MSRP and Yes I can find out MSRP for a stereo online it is not just the car market that lets you see that.
Ohh yeah also you can find out "dealer cost" for a "stereo" just as easily as a car. The mark up on most retail goods is 100% I worked at retail shops for 4 years. That is how businesses have 50% off (or more) sales.
Dealers should find a way to stick to MSRP. Why mark up from that point? It is PURE GREED!
I stand by my convictions that a dealer should NEVER make the price of a car above MSRP +destination fees.
It would be wrong to go to Best Buy and buy a stereo that is more exspensive than MSRP and Yes I can find out MSRP for a stereo online it is not just the car market that lets you see that.
Ohh yeah also you can find out "dealer cost" for a "stereo" just as easily as a car. The mark up on most retail goods is 100% I worked at retail shops for 4 years. That is how businesses have 50% off (or more) sales.
Dealers should find a way to stick to MSRP. Why mark up from that point? It is PURE GREED!
you haven't been on the other side of the fence and don't care to see the situation from a different perspective.
#57
jeebus
Member Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 83
Drove Fit and spit in dealers' face...
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The dealer I ordered from didn't get my Fit yet. So my wife and I drove down to the local dealer to check one out anyway. This dealer had a black sport manual, something we really liked even though our order was for blue. I liked the general feel of the car inside and out. Driving the car was nice too. The steering, brakes, and handling was pretty nice. The power was pretty damn weak (something I really expected) but enough to get up to speed at least. (I drive an M3 so I'm a little biased)
Anyway, after the drive I told the dealer, "I have a check, sell me this at MSRP and I'll take it." I figured I could cancel my order with the other dealer since they didn't get my Fit when they said anyway. Well, the rep got the manager and he wouldn't budge from the $2k markup. What's funny is he tried to convince me to take it anyway. I was like, "yeah man, it's cool...I have one on order for $2k LESS so I will just wait, no biggie."
He proceeds to tell me that it's a Honda so the extra $2k doesn't matter, blah, blah. So I tell the guy, "yeah, uh...you'd have to be a RETARD to pay $2k over sticker for anything, let alone an econo-box." He still argues. I repeat my statement a few times, then telling him, "alright, I'm out...I'm sure there's plenty of retarded suckers that will pay your markup."
I hopped in my M3, gave it some gas, and drifted out of the parking lot...basically saying. " F U "
Cliff notes: Fit = pretty cool but slow...dealer $2k markup is retarded...dealers suck ass.
Member Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 83
Drove Fit and spit in dealers' face...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The dealer I ordered from didn't get my Fit yet. So my wife and I drove down to the local dealer to check one out anyway. This dealer had a black sport manual, something we really liked even though our order was for blue. I liked the general feel of the car inside and out. Driving the car was nice too. The steering, brakes, and handling was pretty nice. The power was pretty damn weak (something I really expected) but enough to get up to speed at least. (I drive an M3 so I'm a little biased)
Anyway, after the drive I told the dealer, "I have a check, sell me this at MSRP and I'll take it." I figured I could cancel my order with the other dealer since they didn't get my Fit when they said anyway. Well, the rep got the manager and he wouldn't budge from the $2k markup. What's funny is he tried to convince me to take it anyway. I was like, "yeah man, it's cool...I have one on order for $2k LESS so I will just wait, no biggie."
He proceeds to tell me that it's a Honda so the extra $2k doesn't matter, blah, blah. So I tell the guy, "yeah, uh...you'd have to be a RETARD to pay $2k over sticker for anything, let alone an econo-box." He still argues. I repeat my statement a few times, then telling him, "alright, I'm out...I'm sure there's plenty of retarded suckers that will pay your markup."
I hopped in my M3, gave it some gas, and drifted out of the parking lot...basically saying. " F U "
Cliff notes: Fit = pretty cool but slow...dealer $2k markup is retarded...dealers suck ass.
Since when do 12 yr olds drive M3's?
You're showing your age !
Too bad they will let anyone buy an M3 even someone that doesn't appreciate life or self-respect either....oh well....jerks are a dime a dozen....
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