Help trouble shooting noisy front end
#1
Help trouble shooting noisy front end
My Fit, 2007 base standard 186k miles, has been making loud front end noise. It makes it while going straight or turning to left. NOT when turning towards right. If I were guessing it sounds like bur on something rubbing. While driving if I put it in neutral the noise does not go away. The car doesn't pull in any direction. Doesn't seem louder with the window open.
Last time at shop he couldnt hear anything, suggested it was the snow tires making too much road noise. Well, the snows are off for a while now but the noise remains.
Any suggestions of what to look for or check for? I appreciate any advise.
Last time at shop he couldnt hear anything, suggested it was the snow tires making too much road noise. Well, the snows are off for a while now but the noise remains.
Any suggestions of what to look for or check for? I appreciate any advise.
#3
I would simply look at the under fender shields since clips wearing out or popping out is common. Just run your hand on the inside of each wheel and see if anything is touching the tires.
if not then the front right wheel bearing sounds like a good culprit as well.
if not then the front right wheel bearing sounds like a good culprit as well.
#5
Are you positive the noise is coming from the front? It's hard to tell sometimes.
We had the problem below, and it was an easy fix. Worth checking...
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/1st-...ml#post1313539
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If this checks out, I'd suspect the RF wheel bearing.
We had the problem below, and it was an easy fix. Worth checking...
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/1st-...ml#post1313539
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If this checks out, I'd suspect the RF wheel bearing.
#6
If you're sure it's in the front, I'd pull the tires and look for something hung up between the caliper and the rotor like a stone or a stick. It could also be the pad wear sensor just starting to engage. Does the noise change when you step on the brakes?
#8
You are asking what the difference is:
If you spin the right wheel and it does a few turns before stopping but your left wheel stops more rapidly, then you know something's up. Usually you can hear if there is a lot of brake drag. I've heard that if you have a bad bearing you can wobble the wheel from side to side but I figure it would have to be really show before that would happen. If you take off the wheel, you can try removing the pads and just spinning the rotor to see if it's the bearing.
If you spin the right wheel and it does a few turns before stopping but your left wheel stops more rapidly, then you know something's up. Usually you can hear if there is a lot of brake drag. I've heard that if you have a bad bearing you can wobble the wheel from side to side but I figure it would have to be really show before that would happen. If you take off the wheel, you can try removing the pads and just spinning the rotor to see if it's the bearing.
#10
Well. I am at a loss. Jacked it up, checked all four 4 wheels and all spin freely with no particular noise or drag. Also looked at cv boots to verify they are intact and they are. Brakes are ok as well. Granted I am a novice and not truly sure what I am looking for.
#11
Just thinking out load here and celebrating my 100th post.
At what speed does the noise appear?
With front wheel drive, can you jack up the front end (both sides), have a friend engage the transmission and accelerator and turn left to see if you can locate where the sound is coming from?
Do you have an area where you can drive the Fit in reverse? Is there noise when you are backing up turning left?
Can you take it to a different mechanic for a second opinion?
Good luck.
At what speed does the noise appear?
With front wheel drive, can you jack up the front end (both sides), have a friend engage the transmission and accelerator and turn left to see if you can locate where the sound is coming from?
Do you have an area where you can drive the Fit in reverse? Is there noise when you are backing up turning left?
Can you take it to a different mechanic for a second opinion?
Good luck.
#12
congrats on 100!
celebrating post #6 here. I can tell you that the noise seems independent of engine RPM. If I am cruising along and put the car in neutral/hold in clutch the noise does not change. I dont notice it so much in reverse but reverse has that weird helical noise (normal) that is a little louder than the other noise when going slow. If you can follow all that.
And yes, I may have to return to shop for diagnosis. I just hate how much they charge for everything. I am not afraid to do the work, learn how, etc. Just diagnosis is my weak point.
celebrating post #6 here. I can tell you that the noise seems independent of engine RPM. If I am cruising along and put the car in neutral/hold in clutch the noise does not change. I dont notice it so much in reverse but reverse has that weird helical noise (normal) that is a little louder than the other noise when going slow. If you can follow all that.
And yes, I may have to return to shop for diagnosis. I just hate how much they charge for everything. I am not afraid to do the work, learn how, etc. Just diagnosis is my weak point.
#13
congrats on 100!
celebrating post #6 here. I can tell you that the noise seems independent of engine RPM. If I am cruising along and put the car in neutral/hold in clutch the noise does not change. I dont notice it so much in reverse but reverse has that weird helical noise (normal) that is a little louder than the other noise when going slow. If you can follow all that.
And yes, I may have to return to shop for diagnosis. I just hate how much they charge for everything. I am not afraid to do the work, learn how, etc. Just diagnosis is my weak point.
celebrating post #6 here. I can tell you that the noise seems independent of engine RPM. If I am cruising along and put the car in neutral/hold in clutch the noise does not change. I dont notice it so much in reverse but reverse has that weird helical noise (normal) that is a little louder than the other noise when going slow. If you can follow all that.
And yes, I may have to return to shop for diagnosis. I just hate how much they charge for everything. I am not afraid to do the work, learn how, etc. Just diagnosis is my weak point.
#15
I ended up changing the cv axle and the bearing on the driver side. 99% sure it was the cv axle but thought I'd do the bearing while I was in there. Quiet as ever now. I did have to pay a shop $50 to press out old bearing and press in new one. Unfortunately I trashed the abs sensor which will be another $58 - dash board lit like a christmas tree right now because I dont have the sensor yet.
I will probably do the right side too, just to have it done. With almost 200k miles I think that will get me through a couple more years until I either give it to my kid or trade it.
I will probably do the right side too, just to have it done. With almost 200k miles I think that will get me through a couple more years until I either give it to my kid or trade it.
#16
So my Fit is experiencing the exact same issue again, just three years and ~40k miles later. Doesnt seem normal for the cv shaft to wear out that quickly when the original one went 186k?
What causes these to wear out? Should I get a better brand?
Any thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.
What causes these to wear out? Should I get a better brand?
Any thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.
Last edited by kistner; 09-25-2018 at 08:39 AM. Reason: Bad Math
#17
counterfeit part / sloppy installation is the main reason for repeated failure. For the wheel bearing, I always trying to find a good used steering knuckle assembly because factory assembly line bearing press in no match for worn out domestic 45 year old machinery veteran or budget nice looking Chinese-made dummy, not to mention beer/tequila filled technician who is more familiar with sledge and pry bar than selection of spacers and precision measuring tools to measure bore in the steering knuckle after removing of the old bearing.
Last edited by doctor J; 09-25-2018 at 02:53 PM.
#18
kistner,
Your experience with aftermarket axles failing quickly is a common one across all the Honda models. If you can't afford factory parts (and they ARE expen$ive!) go with a remanufactured Honda axle.
Your experience with aftermarket axles failing quickly is a common one across all the Honda models. If you can't afford factory parts (and they ARE expen$ive!) go with a remanufactured Honda axle.
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