2nd Generation (GE 08-13) 2nd Generation specific talk and questions here.

PCV Valve Grommet Fell Inside

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 18, 2020 | 02:49 AM
  #1  
Li2099's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
New Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 16
From: Sydney,Australia
5 Year Member
PCV Valve Grommet Fell Inside

Heya
My Fit has been driven 140000km so I decided to order a new PCV valve(17130-PWA-003) and rubber grommet (11855-P72-000) for it.
While taking out the PCV valve wasn't any trouble, the rubber was quite the opposite.
Rubber + age = cracked/ brittle grommet and part of it fell inside.
Looking at access to that black plate, it looks like I'll need to somehow unassemble a lot of components to get there which I'm not sure I can do.
I've tried using a wire with a hook but can't see or fish anything out.
Tried vacuum cleaner and that didn't work either.
Now I'm wondering if I can just install the new grommet and PCV valve and forget about it.
What do you guys think?

rubber grommet

 
Old Jan 18, 2020 | 08:55 PM
  #2  
Pyts's Avatar
Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,325
From: Metro Atlanta, Georgia
5 Year Member
I'd like to say that the car should still be okay to run. But it'd be quite a curve ball if it got sucked up against the screen of the oil pump, obstructing it. That could be a freakin story. is it small crumbly bits that might, say, fit through the oil drain hole in the pan? If the engine were nice and warm you could do a proper oil change, dumping the oil into a strainer over a 5 gal bucket or whatever.
​​​​​If that doesn't do the job or give opportunity to stick somethin in the hole to hook it out, I've got nothin for yuh. Honestly I dont think I'd pull the oil pan because of that.
 
Old Jan 18, 2020 | 11:19 PM
  #3  
SiXiam's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 277
From: Pittsburgh, PA
5 Year Member
Kind of strange. I changed mine on a 2009 Fit.
DIfferent part number: 17130-PND-A01 and it had a metal washer, not any rubber grommet.
Also not sure how anything can even fall in given the angles.




 
Old Jan 19, 2020 | 01:16 AM
  #4  
Li2099's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
New Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 16
From: Sydney,Australia
5 Year Member
About half the grommet fell in.

Yes there seems to be 2 different versions of the Fit.
One uses the plastic PCV while another uses that metal one.
The plastic one simply uses a rubber grommet while the metal is a screw in type.

 
Old Jan 19, 2020 | 12:49 PM
  #5  
56chevydan's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 389
From: Concord, Ca.
5 Year Member
Valve covers normally have shielding around where the pcv valve goes into the cover so the pcv valve doesn't suck up oil that is around the rocker arms. With that said, nothing good can happen with parts of the rubber grommet left inside the valve cover. Your best course of action is to get a new valve cover gasket and some hondabond from the Honda dealer and remove the valve cover, remove the parts of the grommet and then replace the cover gasket with the new one and seal the corner areas where the gasket has the best chance of leaking with the hondabond.
 
Old Jan 19, 2020 | 03:59 PM
  #6  
Pyts's Avatar
Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,325
From: Metro Atlanta, Georgia
5 Year Member
This ones in the crankcase, not the valve cover :/
crankcase to intake manifold, then theres a breather from, I believe, valve cover to plenum. But i recall that line not having a pcv valve..
 
Old Jan 20, 2020 | 01:28 AM
  #7  
hotkey's Avatar
Member
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 317
From: Philippines
5 Year Member
Originally Posted by Li2099
About half the grommet fell in.

Yes there seems to be 2 different versions of the Fit.
One uses the plastic PCV while another uses that metal one.
The plastic one simply uses a rubber grommet while the metal is a screw in type.
Looks like you own a 1st gen (GD). 2nd gens (GE) are screw on. Pictures here:
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-question.html

I agree with Pyts, "...should still be okay to run. But it'd be quite a curve ball if it got sucked up against the screen of the oil pump, obstructing it."
 
Old Jan 23, 2020 | 05:03 PM
  #8  
Li2099's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
New Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 16
From: Sydney,Australia
5 Year Member
It’s GE


 
Old Jan 23, 2020 | 05:23 PM
  #9  
SiXiam's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 277
From: Pittsburgh, PA
5 Year Member
Originally Posted by Li2099
It’s GE
Is it a manual transmission?
 
Old Jan 23, 2020 | 08:00 PM
  #10  
Li2099's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
New Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 16
From: Sydney,Australia
5 Year Member
Originally Posted by SiXiam
Is it a manual transmission?
It’s auto and Not CVT.
 
Old Jan 3, 2022 | 05:45 PM
  #11  
Toti's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1
From: Philippines
Originally Posted by Li2099
Heya
My Fit has been driven 140000km so I decided to order a new PCV valve(17130-PWA-003) and rubber grommet (11855-P72-000) for it.
While taking out the PCV valve wasn't any trouble, the rubber was quite the opposite.
Rubber + age = cracked/ brittle grommet and part of it fell inside.
Looking at access to that black plate, it looks like I'll need to somehow unassemble a lot of components to get there which I'm not sure I can do.
I've tried using a wire with a hook but can't see or fish anything out.
Tried vacuum cleaner and that didn't work either.
Now I'm wondering if I can just install the new grommet and PCV valve and forget about it.
What do you guys think?

rubber grommet

​​​​​​Have you get the grommet inside? I have the same problem.
 
Old Jan 5, 2022 | 11:20 PM
  #12  
Pyts's Avatar
Member
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,325
From: Metro Atlanta, Georgia
5 Year Member
Hey past me! In the future you have way too many dogs!

You'll most likely be just fine since it's not a metal thing or coolant. If good odds aren't enough, I can post up the oil pan removal procedure if you only ask (it's on my laptop n I'm on my phone presently). It may be a bit of a pain to get off (I don't think I've pulled the oil pan on this car) but it can be done!!

I'd probably go in after a big piece, or schedule to go in there some time soon just to make sure the oil pump screen was nice and clear, but I'm not sure the typical person would bother.
 
Old Jul 29, 2024 | 02:54 AM
  #13  
agrosheep's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Jul 2024
Posts: 1
From: New Zealant
Hey team,

Jono from New Zealand here. I've got a honda airwave and the same problem as you're talking about in this thread. The airwave has the same engine and pcv valve&grommet as discussed in this post.

Originally I broke the pcv valve when trying to get it out. After a lot of work I managed to it out but then the (very brittle) rubber grommet broke and a part of it has fallen backwards into whatever is behind there. Was there any consensus about if this could be issue? Does anyone know what is behind there? I'm new-ish to vehicle maintenance and only just start to get my head around it.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Henus
2nd Generation (GE 08-13)
7
Dec 20, 2018 02:17 PM
SlavetotheHonda
General Fit Talk
58
Sep 27, 2015 09:28 PM
DrKelso
Fit Engine Modifications, Motor Swaps, ECU Tuning
15
Nov 2, 2009 10:06 PM
badself
2nd Generation (GE 08-13)
36
Feb 25, 2009 11:48 AM
sonicsc1
General Fit Talk
17
May 10, 2008 08:32 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:19 AM.