Ask GD owners...after being only out for what 2-3 years the GE came out(granted it was longer in Japan) I know a few GD owners that were a bit ticked...When a company turns out many new versions of the same product they alienate people, I work in video games, its the same in this industry as well. About the only company that can seem to do it is Apple, and yet they had to offer a rebate because people were upset with them about the first Gen Iphone(200 dollars store credit I think)...so my assumption is actually a business reality...If you owned a PS2 and a PS3 came out 6 months later you'd be mad at Sony I bet...The thought that you can just make changes to your product without careful consideration of your current market would be irresponsible marketing.

Many is a very broad word...while you say many did not buy, sales numbers say many DID buy. I never said those things aren't important I just said the sales figures suggest that they aren't the deterrent you are claiming they are..

 

Don't take this the wrong way, but you do know you are on a Honda Fit site, right? I'm not saying that the vehicle your are buying is wrong or that the Fit serves your purpose or anything, but what do you expect...being that this is a Honda Fit Forum and all. Yeah and good luck with the VW. I don't personally want to own one but one of my best buds has a R32 Golf and it is a bad a$$ car.

 

I know full where I am. And I joined here expecting to purchase a Honda Fit. Honda made the wrong move so I am moving on. However, since this is a Honda Fit forum I think I am fully in line with the topic of this site in voicing my opinion about the vehicle. I have laid out my case for why I will not buy a Honda Fit. I have done so logically and within reasonable expectations. All I get in response is, "So what," or "Ok... laaaater," or "You should be willing to sacrifice some things for other things on the Fit," and of course the "."

So forgive me for responding to these asinine replies. Honda screwed up and lost a sale from me and at least a few others I am sure.

What I expect from people is a reasonable response devoid of personal emotion or agenda. If they think the Fit is great despite my qualms great, but at least understand my position and please don't ridicule me as has been done.

Now that I will not be getting a Fit, I will bow out of this forum and thread as I have no place here. And to reiterate I did not come here to ridicule the Fit (as is evidenced by the only thread I created), I came here because I planned to buy one.

I could have said "wow... little offensive?" to the posters replying to me, but I didn't. So save your eye rolls for someone else. The assumptions made about my "priorities" and the blatant fanboy-ism was a bit much. It seemed that the fact I wasn't buying a fit hurt them in some way. So my responses are aimed toward that, if they seem "defensive," so be it. But I am not going to let posts based on assumptions and emotion slip by, even at the cost of sounding "defensive" and having someone virtually roll their eyes at me.

I am still researching reliability, but from what I can tell the only places that suggest VWs aren't reliable are forums tied to other vehicles. So I don't take that as evidence of non-reliability. If you could link me to the recent reports you have read however, that would be very helpful.

 

you could read my sig. basically all my wires are corroding, engine and tranny are fine, as of now. but, it is a '03 hecho en mexico. gf's brother inlaw's mkv passat (german built) was having alot eletrical problems. but maybe vw fixed it now, who knows?

also, I have read complaints in vwvortex forums too...

I am looking forward to your review, if you do get your vw, in the 'other car' forum.

 

I am hesitant to question the reliability of a car based on one report. ConsumerReports has good reliability ratings on the VWs from the last 2 years.

From what I have read about the MKVI over in the EU, it is a solid car.

 

sure...

Volkswagen problem

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Consumer Reports Article - MSN Autos

Consumer Reports...

Least reliable

Vehicles listed in scoring order, starting with the worst score.

SMALL CARS: Chevrolet Cobalt, Nissan Sentra (2006), Volkswagen Jetta (5-cyl.), Chevrolet Aveo.

FAMILY CARS: Volkswagen Passat (4-cyl.)*

2008 Volkswagen Passat Wagon Reliability - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

The 2008 Volkswagen Passat Wagon reliability score of 4.0 out of 10 is the Predicted Reliability rating provided by J.D. Power and Associates. This score is based on trending the past three years of historical initial quality and dependability data from J.D. Power's automotive studies, specifically the Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) and the Initial Quality Study (IQS).

USA Today notes, "Reliability's the question mark. The previous Passat shows up as the very worst among family cars in Consumer Reports magazine's predicted reliability chart.

This one particularly...
http://www.myvwlemon.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002779.html
"My 6 mos old car is a POS....If you read my post, dump the car! I just lemon lawed my 09' Wolfsburg (pretty much a gli) I am going back to a HONDA....get the 4dr si like me! Practicality is the reason I got my Jetta too.....POS is what it was!good luck"


I'm not saying all VW's are horrible. I actually like VW cars a lot but everyone I know that's had one has not had the best luck and when I see these articles they turn me away. This is a very small percentage out of them on the road...but still kinda makes me nervous to buy one.

 

Chevy showed up twice on the list? damn...For me if I was in bad weather state Id go Subie...

 

Choosing a car is a lot more emotional and less rational than most people think. I sometimes pour wines at a winery tasting room, and I tell people that if it tastes good to you, it's a good choice for you; if it doesn't, reviews and "expert opinion" don't matter. Same with cars.

You might want to take a look at the True Delta site: Why not this car? Once you login, you will get an extensive A/B comparison list between various pairings. Sample comments re Jetta TDI:

Volkswagen Jetta: Reasons to buy
Powertrain performance: The TDI diesel has torque that comes on quickly, but provides incredible fuel mileage.
Fuel economy: 42 - what's not to like?
Handling: Excellant handling. refined. predictable at the limit.
Safety & braking: top grades for both. Had one totally under me, and did not have a scratch.
Price or payments: reasonable for the car.

Volkswagen Jetta: Reasons not to buy
Price or payments: I tested the Jetta SportWagon TDI. While the Jetta does have a far superior interior (a poet I'm not), the price premium does not justify it. Seriously, do a reality check before you buy. It's way overpriced.
Driving position & visibility: Felt like I was looking out of a bunker. The windshield in my 84 Firebird had more visibility. Drive the Jetta (any model), then drive the Impreza - and you'll see what I mean. I don't think the Jetta would be suited for shorter drivers - I'm 6 feet.

VW reliability has improved over the past couple of years, but was pretty dismal prior to 2008. Volkswagen Jetta / Rabbit / GTI Reliability Comparisons -- car reliability reported by car owners on TrueDelta's Car Reliability Survey

Owners of older Jettas have told me they are pretty good for the first 75,000 miles, then everything starts to fall apart. I seriously considered the TDI hatchback, but reliability concerns nixed it.

 

Yeah--I really like the VWs too, but every owner I know has had problems--expensive ones. It's a shame. There are a lot of VWs around here and they are attractive cars until you speak with the owner who just got a big bill for something that a Honda owner would never worry about. Other than long term ownership costs and unreliability they are attractive cars.

Cheers.

 

I've spent close to $2k fixing mine since june 08. fml

 

For those interested in what, if any, changes the 2010 Fit would have, I looked at the Honda web site today and they have the 2010 Fit posted. The only changes I could see were (1) they raised the MSRP of the Sport and Sport/Navi $150 and (2) eliminated the manual transmission option with the Sport/Navi model. (I did not check the base model). Not exactly changes that benefit their customers.
When Toyota raised the Yaris' MSRP $150, they gave customers VSA in return; its disappointing that Honda did not see fit to do that as well.

 

i talked to a saleman here in Halifax today and he said the 2010's aren't arriving until Dec 1.

 

If I were working for Honda, the center console would be standard with the Nav version, and traction control would be an option for the base and sport models. Also bigger tires on the sport model, and a stone guard as standard equipment for the condenser for all models. An accurate mileage gauge would be appreciated.

But, marketing isn't my job, so not much change is expected.

 

Eliminating the MT on the navi version is just plain dumb.

 

As long as we had to wait until they made and shipped a batch of them, I'd say few bought them. Guess that makes them instant classics, huh?

Cheers.

 

Oh my GOD what is WRONG with honda... seriously. So the only way to get stability control (VSA) is by buying an automatic transmission??? My lease is up in May and was all set on getting the Fit... this just ended it for me. SO disappointed, seriously.