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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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Adding the tweeters

Hi guys,

I have a 09 fix LX (in canada) which has the stock 4 speakers.

I'm thinking of adding the honda tweeters at my next oil change.

I believe the wiring is already there. DO you know?

Any idea what they would charge to add the tweeters?

Do u think it is worth it? I found out the price of each tweeter is $50

I'm impressed with the stock radio, but looking to treat myself a little
 

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Save your money up for some quality component speakers like the Polk mm series or the infinity kappa perfects. Of course you will also need an external amp but trust me there is just no comparison in sound quality. If you don't mind using the stock HU and high level inputs you could do it yourself for as little as $400 or less if you are savvy. I've wasted so much money on inferior speakers and amps only to replace them in a few months in the pursuit of something better. I've spent over $1800 in parts on my sound system since I bought the car when I could have just spent $1200 if I did it right from the start.
 

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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I too am game for just adding cheap factory speakers as a quick fix, if the wiring is already there. The car is my daily driver and the system is in the other car. I'm not expecting SEAS or CDT sound, just something a little better than stock.
I guess one can simply pop the cover off and take a look.
 
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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I won't pay the $50 each price. If I ever upgrade, I'll find some aftermarket tweeters that will be much higher quality for less than that $50 each price. (Vick - check @ Addison or Maddison).

As for the prewire question, just remove the cover and look insde to see if the wire and connector are there.
 
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To me the problem with the stock tweeters is that only the tweeters have a crossover (a cheap one at that) without a crossover network the door speakers will be outputting the same frequencies as the tweeters. This is a no no in the audio world and can lead to a 'muddy' sound. Same thing with rear door speakers. The best sound stage will only have one speaker per frequency range per channel. So unless you are running a 4.1 channel surround system you wouldn't need to upgrade the rear door speakers either.

With that being said, if it sounds good to you, what else matters?
 
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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You may be right, but I think that the stock speakers are getting pretty week in the last octave ( 10Khz - 20Khz ). They may not be a real competitor to the dash mounted 3/4in tweeter. Easy to test, simply ask someone who have an unmodified 6 speakers set-up and compare with the unmodified 4 speakers.

For sure with higher quality component speaker, it is better to get true frequency splitting cross-over.

My two cents

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To me the problem with the stock tweeters is that only the tweeters have a crossover (a cheap one at that) without a crossover network the door speakers will be outputting the same frequencies as the tweeters. This is a no no in the audio world and can lead to a 'muddy' sound. Same thing with rear door speakers. The best sound stage will only have one speaker per frequency range per channel. So unless you are running a 4.1 channel surround system you wouldn't need to upgrade the rear door speakers either.

With that being said, if it sounds good to you, what else matters?
 
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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And to raise the sound stage.
 
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Lyon[Nightroad]
To me the problem with the stock tweeters is that only the tweeters have a crossover (a cheap one at that) without a crossover network the door speakers will be outputting the same frequencies as the tweeters.
That would be a high pass filter which may only consist of a capacitor. Does anyone know where this is located? To make a true crossover one would need, in its simplest form, a capacitor and an inductor. More info here.
Designing Passive Crossovers
 
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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That would be a high pass filter which may only consist of a capacitor. Does anyone know where this is located? ...
Yes it's part of the tweeter assembly:

 
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply. Would you happen to know what value it is?
 
Old Feb 19, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Nope. I don't even have them in my car so I can't check them. I have an LX model also.
 
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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Glad for the info as I was thinking about those hf drivers as I was driving home from the ski hill.

Do not worry about crossovers per se... the capacitor in series with the hf driver simply blocks low frequencies and allows the higher frequencies to pass to the hf drivers. In reality it 'protects' the hf drivers or 'tweeters' from damage due to low frequencies. As far as the larger speakers being fed high frequencies, don't worry, most speakers have a natural rolloff of their frequency response due to the inability of the speaker's coil/cone assembly to reproduce energy at frequencies beyond design.
 
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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HF Tweeters install in LX - is the wiring in place?

I popped the grill off the dash area where the 'tweeters' install. Nice hole! But when I stuck my finger in I could not feel anything but empty space - no wiring, no socket or plug - empty (good place for a stash?!!).

Really don't want to tear out my dash as it does not rattle
 
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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Thanks for checking gboates.


DO you have a LX or DX model?
 
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Lx

I have the LX 2009 Fit
 
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Well, not canadian, but I figure the issues are the same.. I started a thread on this in regards to the US base fit having the holes/grills in the dash, but not the tweeters. I believe the people responding with more information said the wires were not there. I would assume that the issue is the same with the Ca. fits.

The thread got a little derailed, but there is still good info there...
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...e-ge-09-a.html
 
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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adding the tweeters

No wiring, $80 cdn per unit - what to do?:?
 
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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Not to keep dragging this out but check these out first :

Infinity Kappa 60.9cs (609cs) 6-1/2" Component Systems Car Speakers Car Audio Car Audio, Video, & GPS Navigation - Sonic Electronix

not top of the line but still much better bang for your buck than just stock tweeters. You will lose some bass though until you get an amp for them.
 
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