Question about the clutch in the MT...
Question about the clutch in the MT...
So my question is, sometimes when I push the clutch in to upshift, I can feel the "revving" of the gas pedal on the clutch. This seems to only happen when I am uplifting quickly at a slightly higher rpm (about 3200). Under normal driving, the clutch is smooth as butter. Any ideas on what this could be?
I've driven other MT cars and they don't seem to do this.
Feel free to ask any questions or details.
Thanks.
I've driven other MT cars and they don't seem to do this.
Feel free to ask any questions or details.
Thanks.
I may have the same issue...
First of all, mine has been intermittent. 2ndly, this is my 2nd Honda is a row with this problem. My last was an 08 Accord 6MT, and in that car it was not only all the time, but more severe.
How mine is felt is during the uptake of the clutch - the first inch of pedal travel from the top. It's felt more in lower gears or higher rpms. If say I'm in 1st and rev it sort of high, then press the clutch ONE INCH down and hold it there, this creaking feel (no sound) will be felt.
So far no one has been able to diagnose this issue. On my Accord, the tech said it's a high-performance clutch coupled to a high powered engine. Uh huh. So shouldn't every high performance car I've driven had this? Someone should diagnose what's wrong with the dumb as a rock techs.
First of all, mine has been intermittent. 2ndly, this is my 2nd Honda is a row with this problem. My last was an 08 Accord 6MT, and in that car it was not only all the time, but more severe.
How mine is felt is during the uptake of the clutch - the first inch of pedal travel from the top. It's felt more in lower gears or higher rpms. If say I'm in 1st and rev it sort of high, then press the clutch ONE INCH down and hold it there, this creaking feel (no sound) will be felt.
So far no one has been able to diagnose this issue. On my Accord, the tech said it's a high-performance clutch coupled to a high powered engine. Uh huh. So shouldn't every high performance car I've driven had this? Someone should diagnose what's wrong with the dumb as a rock techs.
So with 165+ views and only one response, should I just take my car to Honda and have it checked out being that my car is still under warranty? The only reason this "problem" is a big deal Is because I have never experiened it in other MT cars I have driven. It's not really a make or break thing.
There are two types of clutches, cable and hydraulic. Hydraulic is a liquid so when you rev the motor when shift you can feel it in the pedal. I never had that problem because I let off the gas to change gears. What you are feeling is clutch slip, There also could be air in the line so it doesn't fully disengage but from the info the OP gave it sounds normal.
You may be talking about something else. At least with my issue I can tell you it is not normal. As I said, if it was, I would feel it in every MT car I've driven with a hydraulic clutch. Even all the cars I've owned had hydraulic clutches. All 7 of them.
Also, if it was normal, why is it an intermittent characteristic on my Fit? Not only is it intermittent, the degree of creak on the pedal varies when the trait comes back.
No, it is not something that requires lubing. It can be felt if you gently press the clutch about a few millimeters when in gear and revving.
Also, if it was normal, why is it an intermittent characteristic on my Fit? Not only is it intermittent, the degree of creak on the pedal varies when the trait comes back.
No, it is not something that requires lubing. It can be felt if you gently press the clutch about a few millimeters when in gear and revving.
You may be talking about something else. At least with my issue I can tell you it is not normal. As I said, if it was, I would feel it in every MT car I've driven with a hydraulic clutch. Even all the cars I've owned had hydraulic clutches. All 7 of them.
Also, if it was normal, why is it an intermittent characteristic on my Fit? Not only is it intermittent, the degree of creak on the pedal varies when the trait comes back.
No, it is not something that requires lubing. It can be felt if you gently press the clutch about a few millimeters when in gear and revving.
Also, if it was normal, why is it an intermittent characteristic on my Fit? Not only is it intermittent, the degree of creak on the pedal varies when the trait comes back.
No, it is not something that requires lubing. It can be felt if you gently press the clutch about a few millimeters when in gear and revving.
If theres air in the line it wont fully disengage so the best way to fit out it to pump the clutch a few time and if the pedal is harder and also check the fluid to make sure it full. If the fluid is low then there a leak and could be leaking on the pressure plate.
Firstly, I don't "ride" the pedal, lol. In trying to diagnose the problem, I discovered this technique to demonstrate the problem to the Honda techs.
I have 22,000 on my 09 Fit. BUT, this trait manifested itself shortly after new. My Accord developed this soon after new as well.
It's not due to driving style either. I'm very conservative as far as my daily drive and again, this trait was absent in all my previous cars.
I have 22,000 on my 09 Fit. BUT, this trait manifested itself shortly after new. My Accord developed this soon after new as well.
It's not due to driving style either. I'm very conservative as far as my daily drive and again, this trait was absent in all my previous cars.
Firstly, I don't "ride" the pedal, lol. In trying to diagnose the problem, I discovered this technique to demonstrate the problem to the Honda techs.
I have 22,000 on my 09 Fit. BUT, this trait manifested itself shortly after new. My Accord developed this soon after new as well.
It's not due to driving style either. I'm very conservative as far as my daily drive and again, this trait was absent in all my previous cars.
I have 22,000 on my 09 Fit. BUT, this trait manifested itself shortly after new. My Accord developed this soon after new as well.
It's not due to driving style either. I'm very conservative as far as my daily drive and again, this trait was absent in all my previous cars.
When this trait comes up, it happens all the time, hill/decline/flat/warm/cold/rain/sun/weekend/weekday, LOL. There is no consistency in when it shows up other than when it does, it stays for maybe several days at least. But it has gone away each time too.
Thanks for trying to help.
Thanks for trying to help.
When this trait comes up, it happens all the time, hill/decline/flat/warm/cold/rain/sun/weekend/weekday, LOL. There is no consistency in when it shows up other than when it does, it stays for maybe several days at least. But it has gone away each time too.
Thanks for trying to help.
Thanks for trying to help.
I think what he is trying to get at is their exists a Clutch Delay Valve on the GEs and GDs.
On the GD it is in-line, on the GE it is incorporated into the master cylinder.
Their are ways to get around this to deliver more linear pressure plate manipulation, and in nicer cars, some Audis (a early 90's RS4 comes to mind) this is also a standard feature meant for people who have never driven stick or are not expected to be the best at driving stick, like the Fit's demographic... Not aimed at enthusiasts or old timers necessarily.
I encountered this as well initially. More of a problem when trying to roll into first nice and easy or when "soft shifting" into second or third.
Hope this helps.
But you decided to reject that sentiment out of hand... so good luck.

Edit: I wasn't referring to gear engagement.. Hope this gets resolved.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; Dec 21, 2010 at 04:28 PM.
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