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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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If anything you have done could have caused the shock to go bad it would seem to me to be the wheel spacers... The Swift springs are amazing in that there is very little increase in spring tension when compressed... I had them on my 2007 sport but had to change them out for aftermarket coilovers to raise it up because they lowered the front end too much for the roads in my area... By being raised the caster angle is improved as is the stability at speed.. Even at stock height I was tearing the front bumper loose from the fenders on occasion... When I had it in town once to have the annual state inspection performed on it the guy doing the inspection bashed the front bumper loose on both sides on the test drive when pulling into the driveway at the shop...
 
Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
If anything you have done could have caused the shock to go bad it would seem to me to be the wheel spacers... The Swift springs are amazing in that there is very little increase in spring tension when compressed... I had them on my 2007 sport but had to change them out for aftermarket coilovers to raise it up because they lowered the front end too much for the roads in my area... By being raised the caster angle is improved as is the stability at speed.. Even at stock height I was tearing the front bumper loose from the fenders on occasion... When I had it in town once to have the annual state inspection performed on it the guy doing the inspection bashed the front bumper loose on both sides on the test drive when pulling into the driveway at the shop...
I need help understanding.
Why is there very little increase in tension in the shorter springs - and thus higher rate - of Swift? shorter coils, and thuys length of 'torsion' the greater the tension I would expect.
And why are the wheel spacers more likely to cause shock failure. The spacers decrease the travel of the shock pistons for any given wheel movement compared to stock. Is it due to more rapid travel? Or more impact thanks to the change in the lever arm dimensions?
I'm not sayin g you're wrong, just I don't understand what you're saying.
I can see if the drop was more than an inch and a half, that the bottom of thed shock would take a serious pounding.
 
Old Feb 3, 2013 | 11:46 PM
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Its rare but we have seen a shock leak around the piston rod in only a few miles. The cause was probably the same as ours, either bad seal or a jolt offcenter that damaged the seal. You said you couldn't find a leak so where was it leaking?
Honda should replace the shock under unless you have lowered to the level that the suspension has no room to function without ramming the bottom of the shock. Then its your fault. So if the ride height isn't lowered more than an inch and a half and your bushing stops are OK you have a good case.
The suspension is completely stock with the addition of the Ichiba spacers when I found the blown front shock. The oil was coming from around the shaft seal and the pressurized shock had lost all pressure. No matter, I think Honda should replace the shock as I only have 5K miles. I never did hear back from them on Friday so I'll drop by tomorrow, Monday.
 
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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The suspension is completely stock with the addition of the Ichiba spacers when I found the blown front shock. The oil was coming from around the shaft seal and the pressurized shock had lost all pressure. No matter, I think Honda should replace the shock as I only have 5K miles. I never did hear back from them on Friday so I'll drop by tomorrow, Monday.


One of our bunch added a second shock failure observed and his was the same as mine - and yours: the piston rod seal failed.

Honda owes you a replacement since you are still in the warranty period. Installed as well.

In my case it well inside Honda's warranty period so we got a replacement from the manufacturer of the shock. (no I won't name them; they were too nice about replacing it. Perhaps you could investigate that way too)
Do be careful though about any damage to the seal area like hammer or gouge marks.

Just how thick a spacer did you use? That could come back to bite you later.
 
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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lemme knw how it goes they should replace if not go to another dealer hehe :_)

if u come to mines they will heheh im good friends with head shop supervisor
 
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mahout
One of our bunch added a second shock failure observed and his was the same as mine - and yours: the piston rod seal failed.

Honda owes you a replacement since you are still in the warranty period. Installed as well.

In my case it well inside Honda's warranty period so we got a replacement from the manufacturer of the shock. (no I won't name them; they were too nice about replacing it. Perhaps you could investigate that way too)
Do be careful though about any damage to the seal area like hammer or gouge marks.

Just how thick a spacer did you use? That could come back to bite you later.
it's in his signature... 20 mm in front and 30 mm in back.

seems like he was trying to flush the wheels/tires to the body or something.
 
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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I really don't see how spacers put added stress on the strut. Yes, spacers or wider wheels can put extra stress on the axle bearings, but nothing significant on the suspension.
 
Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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I really don't see how spacers put added stress on the strut. Yes, spacers or wider wheels can put extra stress on the axle bearings, but nothing significant on the suspension.
It can, think leverage point. Further a wheel is outside the axial point, the harder suspension works to stop its movement. Although I think it's such a small difference it probably doesnt make a huge difference but I'm just saying it can.
 
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 01:57 AM
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No matter, I think Honda should replace the shock as I only have 5K miles. I never did hear back from them on Friday so I'll drop by tomorrow, Monday.
Hopefully you won't have any problems with warranty coverage. They do happen. Apples and oranges but a while back I had a leak on my rear shocks (Self-leveling) of a Chrysler T&C while under warranty. R & R no issues with the dealer. Good luck!
 
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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Update:

The dealership has been more than cooperative about this issue. I bring the Fit in Thursday and if the shock hasn't shown any indication that it has been 'compressed', they will honor the warrantee. This is more than fair in my book. Kudos to Honda for being open minded and meeting me half way thusfar.
 
Old Feb 6, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Thanks for the link but it specifies for a 2007-2008 Fit. Are the struts the same?
keep scrolling down.
 
Old Feb 6, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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keep scrolling down.
Thanks! Again!!
 
Old Feb 8, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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Dealer will replace strut under warrantee

I just got a call from the dealership, Sam Linder Honda, with good news. They inspected the r/f strut and will be replacing with a new strut. The strut is on order and I will have to go back to have them installed another day. Because it was a warrantee issue, they could not just give me the strut to install myself. This is the fourth Honda my wife and I have purchased from this dealership and I can honestly say that their service is one of the main reasons we always choose to go back to them when considering a new car.
 
Old Feb 8, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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YEahhhhhhh thats whats up bro thats good to hear
 
Old Feb 27, 2016 | 05:57 PM
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Replaced rear shocks at 45,000 miles,which seemed a little odd since I have not had to replace shocks on my previous 3 hondas, all have had over 150,000 miles. Went to Honda for routine maintenance and now the shocks they replaced are now leaking at 70,000.. wtf is going on with this? Is it the FIT or crappy OEM shocks. I am not happy that I may be spending another $450 for something that has already been replaced. Anyone else having these issues???
 
Old Feb 27, 2016 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Honda10
Replaced rear shocks at 45,000 miles,which seemed a little odd since I have not had to replace shocks on my previous 3 hondas, all have had over 150,000 miles. Went to Honda for routine maintenance and now the shocks they replaced are now leaking at 70,000.. wtf is going on with this? Is it the FIT or crappy OEM shocks. I am not happy that I may be spending another $450 for something that has already been replaced. Anyone else having these issues???
I have a stock set front & rear w/springs with less than 10,000 miles on them.
 
Old Feb 27, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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I have a stock set front & rear w/springs with less than 10,000 miles on them.
How much r u willing to take for them? I am going back to Honda in 2 weeks so they can verify the leak which I will then see what they are willing to discount if they do need replaced..are there any differences in a base vs sport?
 
Old Feb 27, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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i would be happy if the dampers lasted 50K.

what kind of shitty roads are you driving, and how much weight in the car?
 
Old Feb 27, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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How much r u willing to take for them? I am going back to Honda in 2 weeks so they can verify the leak which I will then see what they are willing to discount if they do need replaced..are there any differences in a base vs sport?
no difference between the two. just go get some koni srt.t rear shocks. they are cheap and do it urself.
 
Old Feb 27, 2016 | 09:14 PM
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How much r u willing to take for them? I am going back to Honda in 2 weeks so they can verify the leak which I will then see what they are willing to discount if they do need replaced..are there any differences in a base vs sport?
I think it's more a matter of what they are worth to you. I can find out the shipping cost Monday or as soon as I know what all you want. I have all springs & damper but the top of the front was reused. I really just want them out of my house.
 
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