My Turbo Build: Possibly the first USDM GE8 turbo build actually completed
#1
My Turbo Build: Possibly the first USDM GE8 turbo build actually completed
I wrote a huge thread and every thing was accidentally deleted so I'm just going to dump random pics and eventually follow up.
Thanks again for all the support DSM, TC, and others
modified and ported r18 turbo header
^old pics before clocking
Dremmels and plastic don't mix but I made it work
I don't have the patience to type out again just how difficult it is to remove the oil pan. There are even things, like needing to disconnect the shift linkage, that aren't listed in the esm. Just ask yourself how many cars you know of where you even have to remove the drive belt and ac compressor to get the pan out. Not to mention how much I HATE liquid gasket.
Welding is for people who care
too small, make bigger, where hammer? Seriously though, boost creep is scary, almost as scary as how fast you go when you creep all the way up to 16psi and get so glued to your seat you forget to let off the gas and look at your gauges to figure out why you are going so fast, until the ecu finally gets really pissed and shuts you down. I love this engine so much, after all the shit I put her through, she just wont die. L15, no potential, go k20, blah blah blah, bullshit. Nitrous didn't kill her and 1bar wont either.
Anyway, I did actually want to have control over boost levels and stay at 8psi for a while so...
My guys at OXBO Muffler in Joliet,IL did an awesome job making my downpipe. sourcing the unique flange (different from other t25s) for this cheap ass chinesse tb25 was insanely hard. This thing is small even for a t25 but spool up doesn't even exist. you hit the gas and the boost is there by 3k. Hit the gas when you are already moving and you will be at full boost before the throttle is even finished opening as seen in my logs.
Total cost: ~$1200 and 100+ hours researching, building, and tuning (and one month of alienation from friends and family, even my girlfriend of 4 years was starting to think I loved my car more than her)
I love screwing with Fiestas for some reason now.
Thanks again for all the support DSM, TC, and others
modified and ported r18 turbo header
^old pics before clocking
Dremmels and plastic don't mix but I made it work
I don't have the patience to type out again just how difficult it is to remove the oil pan. There are even things, like needing to disconnect the shift linkage, that aren't listed in the esm. Just ask yourself how many cars you know of where you even have to remove the drive belt and ac compressor to get the pan out. Not to mention how much I HATE liquid gasket.
Welding is for people who care
too small, make bigger, where hammer? Seriously though, boost creep is scary, almost as scary as how fast you go when you creep all the way up to 16psi and get so glued to your seat you forget to let off the gas and look at your gauges to figure out why you are going so fast, until the ecu finally gets really pissed and shuts you down. I love this engine so much, after all the shit I put her through, she just wont die. L15, no potential, go k20, blah blah blah, bullshit. Nitrous didn't kill her and 1bar wont either.
Anyway, I did actually want to have control over boost levels and stay at 8psi for a while so...
My guys at OXBO Muffler in Joliet,IL did an awesome job making my downpipe. sourcing the unique flange (different from other t25s) for this cheap ass chinesse tb25 was insanely hard. This thing is small even for a t25 but spool up doesn't even exist. you hit the gas and the boost is there by 3k. Hit the gas when you are already moving and you will be at full boost before the throttle is even finished opening as seen in my logs.
Total cost: ~$1200 and 100+ hours researching, building, and tuning (and one month of alienation from friends and family, even my girlfriend of 4 years was starting to think I loved my car more than her)
I love screwing with Fiestas for some reason now.
Last edited by Lyon[Nightroad]; 01-11-2019 at 02:43 PM.
#4
no clue, this is illinois. the roads are slick, my tires are hard from the cold, i just spin tires. In second gear, it feels like getting rear ended by a semi.
#5
also - what has this all done to your MPGs??
Last edited by zymo; 01-14-2011 at 08:19 AM.
#7
yes, I meant to say this as well. really nice work. I was curious about some other things as well...
did you reprogram your ecu for this? I don't know much about hondas but on other cars I've seen there is usually a ecu upgrade that goes along with a turbo upgrade. is the car throwing codes and will you be able to pass the OBD inspection?
did you upgrade any of your transmission/drivetrain to handle the extra power you are producing or are you expecting the stock components to be durable enough?
did you reprogram your ecu for this? I don't know much about hondas but on other cars I've seen there is usually a ecu upgrade that goes along with a turbo upgrade. is the car throwing codes and will you be able to pass the OBD inspection?
did you upgrade any of your transmission/drivetrain to handle the extra power you are producing or are you expecting the stock components to be durable enough?
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Mpgs depend on how I drive it. If I never enter boost. I still get 35mpg. But if I zoom around town and wot every stoplight, I get about 22mpg now.
I use the aem fic for fuel management. No drivetrain upgrades. If the at craps, then i just have an excuse to do an mt swap. But honestly the at is taking it like a champ. In fact, I think it likes the extra power. Shifts are still very crisp and fast but now I rocket out of the shift higher up in the power band. I come out of first gear and begin 2nd gear at 5k rpms, whereas before I came out at 4500.
I use the aem fic for fuel management. No drivetrain upgrades. If the at craps, then i just have an excuse to do an mt swap. But honestly the at is taking it like a champ. In fact, I think it likes the extra power. Shifts are still very crisp and fast but now I rocket out of the shift higher up in the power band. I come out of first gear and begin 2nd gear at 5k rpms, whereas before I came out at 4500.
Last edited by Lyon[Nightroad]; 01-14-2011 at 02:15 PM.
#13
Mpgs depend on how I drive it. If I never enter boost. I still get 35mpg. But if I zoom around town and wot every stoplight, I get about 22mpg now.
I use the aem fic for fuel management. No drivetrain upgrades. If the at craps, then i just have an excuse to do an mt swap. But honestly the at is taking it like a champ. In fact, I think it likes the extra power. Shifts are still very crisp and fast but now I rocket out of the shift higher up in the power band. I come out of first gear and begin 2nd gear at 5k rpms, whereas before I came out at 4500.
I use the aem fic for fuel management. No drivetrain upgrades. If the at craps, then i just have an excuse to do an mt swap. But honestly the at is taking it like a champ. In fact, I think it likes the extra power. Shifts are still very crisp and fast but now I rocket out of the shift higher up in the power band. I come out of first gear and begin 2nd gear at 5k rpms, whereas before I came out at 4500.
Last edited by Texas Coyote; 01-14-2011 at 03:21 PM.
#15
It would be much more expensive to consumers that way. Definitely not $1200 for a package deal to buy everything new in box, plus margins, etc..
But if you are cool with this and want to send us some start up capital I would love to.. I need a new job anyways.
#16
It would be much more expensive to consumers that way. Definitely not $1200 for a package deal to buy everything new in box, plus margins, etc..
But if you are cool with this and want to send us some start up capital I would love to.. I need a new job anyways.
But if you are cool with this and want to send us some start up capital I would love to.. I need a new job anyways.
lmao. i'll come down, and let you put one on my car, and i'll pay you for it. lol. i don't know near enough to even try any of this myself, or know what to buy. lol.
#17
If you have the time and funding I could make you a very nice custom setup.
With the parts available in addition to what I can have fabricated, coated or cryo treated for you we can do anything from a gain of 50whp-400whp.
#18
I have a couple component lists floating around here, but if you ever decide to bite the bullet this is what I love to do. More than happy to help.
If you have the time and funding I could make you a very nice custom setup.
With the parts available in addition to what I can have fabricated, coated or cryo treated for you we can do anything from a gain of 50whp-400whp.
If you have the time and funding I could make you a very nice custom setup.
With the parts available in addition to what I can have fabricated, coated or cryo treated for you we can do anything from a gain of 50whp-400whp.
so for the current set up that Lyon has, run him around 1200 bucks. have you got a new hp with his new set up yet? i'd be super interested in this, however with my lack of knowlege, coming back home(to canada) would be brutal if i didn't know how to fix something if something were to go wrong.....lol. i'll see how you guys make out with this, and if this all turns out for the good, i'll certainly be in touch.
#19
I have a couple component lists floating around here, but if you ever decide to bite the bullet this is what I love to do. More than happy to help.
If you have the time and funding I could make you a very nice custom setup.
With the parts available in addition to what I can have fabricated, coated or cryo treated for you we can do anything from a gain of 50whp-400whp.
If you have the time and funding I could make you a very nice custom setup.
With the parts available in addition to what I can have fabricated, coated or cryo treated for you we can do anything from a gain of 50whp-400whp.
~SB