Intermittent Dash Messages - Expensive Camera Replacement Needed?
Intermittent Dash Messages - Expensive Camera Replacement Needed?
Our 2020 EX, with 63,000 miles, has been, off and on, for the past few weeks, cycling through dash messages usually including:
Adaptive Cruise Control Problem
Collision Mitigation System Problem
Lane Keeping Assist Problem
Road Departure Mitigation Problem
Auto High Beam Problem
Trusted local repair said bad camera – no charge from him, advised going to dealer.
Went to dealer today. They charged $195 plus tax for diagnosis – which I expected – and said it needs a new multipurpose front windshield camera that they would have to order and that will cost $2,066 plus tax including alignment and aiming.
This seems like a lot for a non-essential part that Honda sensing seems to mostly work fine without. My wife is concerned that maybe it will go bad again and asks if we should trade in the car.
Do we have to pay the $2,066 because, without it, you could never sell the car? Is it practical to get a used/cheaper camera when you do not repair your own car?
We buy a car new and traditionally keep it for maybe ten years; one of our kids drives our old 2020 Fit. That one has us spoiled in terms of never needing big repairs.
All advice appreciated.
Adaptive Cruise Control Problem
Collision Mitigation System Problem
Lane Keeping Assist Problem
Road Departure Mitigation Problem
Auto High Beam Problem
Trusted local repair said bad camera – no charge from him, advised going to dealer.
Went to dealer today. They charged $195 plus tax for diagnosis – which I expected – and said it needs a new multipurpose front windshield camera that they would have to order and that will cost $2,066 plus tax including alignment and aiming.
This seems like a lot for a non-essential part that Honda sensing seems to mostly work fine without. My wife is concerned that maybe it will go bad again and asks if we should trade in the car.
Do we have to pay the $2,066 because, without it, you could never sell the car? Is it practical to get a used/cheaper camera when you do not repair your own car?
We buy a car new and traditionally keep it for maybe ten years; one of our kids drives our old 2020 Fit. That one has us spoiled in terms of never needing big repairs.
All advice appreciated.
Honda put faulty cameras in our cars. Someone needs to create a class action lawsuit. File complaints with NTSHA, BBB, CarComplaints.com.
Here is a template
Component/System Involved:
The multi-purpose camera system on my [Year, Make, Model] has malfunctioned, disabling critical safety features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), and Collision Braking Warning System (CBWS).
Safety Risk:
The failure of these systems creates significant safety risks. Without ACC, the vehicle cannot maintain a safe distance from other vehicles. The LKAS no longer provides steering assistance to help stay in the lane, and the CBWS cannot detect or warn of potential collisions. These malfunctions increase the likelihood of accidents, especially during highway driving or in heavy traffic.
Problem Reproduction and Confirmation:
The issue has been reproduced and confirmed by [Dealer/Service Center Name] during an inspection on [Date].
Inspection Details:
The vehicle has been inspected by a dealer/service center, which diagnosed the problem. However, the manufacturer has not offered a resolution, nor has the vehicle been inspected by police, insurance representatives, or other parties.
Warning Indicators:
Before the failure, warning messages appeared on the dashboard, including alerts for ACC, LKAS, and CBWS system malfunctions. These warnings initially appeared on [Date/Timeframe] and became more frequent over time.
I believe this issue may be a design or manufacturing defect affecting other vehicles of the same make and model. I urge the NHTSA to investigate this matter to determine if it represents a broader safety concern.
Here is a template
Component/System Involved:
The multi-purpose camera system on my [Year, Make, Model] has malfunctioned, disabling critical safety features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), and Collision Braking Warning System (CBWS).
Safety Risk:
The failure of these systems creates significant safety risks. Without ACC, the vehicle cannot maintain a safe distance from other vehicles. The LKAS no longer provides steering assistance to help stay in the lane, and the CBWS cannot detect or warn of potential collisions. These malfunctions increase the likelihood of accidents, especially during highway driving or in heavy traffic.
Problem Reproduction and Confirmation:
The issue has been reproduced and confirmed by [Dealer/Service Center Name] during an inspection on [Date].
Inspection Details:
The vehicle has been inspected by a dealer/service center, which diagnosed the problem. However, the manufacturer has not offered a resolution, nor has the vehicle been inspected by police, insurance representatives, or other parties.
Warning Indicators:
Before the failure, warning messages appeared on the dashboard, including alerts for ACC, LKAS, and CBWS system malfunctions. These warnings initially appeared on [Date/Timeframe] and became more frequent over time.
I believe this issue may be a design or manufacturing defect affecting other vehicles of the same make and model. I urge the NHTSA to investigate this matter to determine if it represents a broader safety concern.
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