Right on!!
From the press releases, looks like the GK will work only with an I-phone. But since the market is not geared solely for Apple employees, its hoped that they will eventually integrate the Andriod format with a program update. Honda missed the boat here.
As for getting the LX. My thoughts are, the EX and LX are both great packages.
Chose the EX cause retrofitting an after-market perimeter entry/push button start system isn't reliable enough for me to consider and I desire that feature. Could definitely do w/out the sunroof and the alloys though.

We got the same pocket size. Difference: mine have "holes".

 

I agree, I have had my eye on the new Mercedes for a while. Still think it will lack the fit's utility, but a fine looking car.

As for unreliability, you are right a TVR trumps any of these cars. I had Hondas in the 80's and 90's and then switched to BMWs and Minis through the 90's and 00s. I got where I did not feel that I had unreliable cars, but going back to the dealer every month and a half to have something fixed was my normal. Then in the past 5 years I have owned 2 Hondas and other than oils changes and 2 batteries swapped out under warranty, I have never even gotten to know my dealer's service department. And I realized, just what a PITA my BMWs and Minis were in this regard. So as attractive as some other cars look to me, I am not willing to go back to the revolving door of my BMW dealer.

I will say this, the BMW service department always treated me well and I rarely paid for anything because of the new car warranty and included maintenance. But when I looked at the charges that were being made to BMW for the warranty work, I realized that I did not want to own any of these cars after their 4 year warranties had expired.

 

One thing that's changed over the last decade is the least reliable cars today seem to be more reliable than than the most reliable cars were ten years ago.

 

That could be true, but mfgs. (especially Europeans) were forced to improve reliability based on today's buyer's expectations and the continuing dominance of JDM designed vehicles in the JD Power rankings.
Case in point - Toyota and Honda always in the top 10. For 2013, MsBends and BMtroubleWs ranked 12th and 16th, respectively out of all the manufacturers. In the Luxury category, Lexus #1 Acura #4 and below this category's average level, BMW #7 and MB #9.
Overjoyed, for the GK's price point as it remains affordable and, hopefully, uber reliable.

 

A while ago some folks on this forum expressed concern with the quality of a Fit built in Mexico.
Are other Honda models built there and is quality same as those built in Japan?

 

Yes, Honda CRV in El Salto, Jalisco, Mexico. Not all of them but some. BTW, it got top CUV in JD Power for 2013.

 

It's worth noting that the iPhone just celebrated it's 7th birthday. The entire smartphone revolution is that "young". When you consider that the auto industry iterates on a 5-6 year cycle, it's not surprising that it's going to be Apple first. 3-4 years ago when development on this car started, Android was just starting to gain traction.

 

Car tech moves as fast as cold molasses.

 

I ended up going with the 2013 for a great deal, but I talked to the dealer in Chicago who should be getting cars mid-month. They were only one of two dealers in IL to hit sales goals, so they get them first. If anyone is interested in getting it sooner rather than later, PM your email address and I can give you his.

 

To ColinS...Yours might be 2/300.00 pre-delivery, but.....

My pre-delivery costs ( Called Pre-delivery fee's ) and they are $599.00 here in Florida, thanks to are stupid legislators. Couple of hundred more than what you posted. Not happy at all and no way around it either.

 

Your "stupid legislators" have nothing to do with anything you pay your dealer to purchase a car except for the cost of registering it and sales tax.

In Florida, you have very strong disclosure policy regulations that require that car dealers clearly disclose any charges they are making in all advertizing or offers to sell a car. They are explicitly forbidden from charging the customer for any services that they are paid by the manufacturer to do such as pre delivery inspection.

When you see a fee like "pre delivery fee" in Florida they are required to disclose that such a charge is nothing more than added dealer profit. They are not required to charge you this, or any other fee besides sales tax.

Anytime a dealer negotiates a price with you for the purchase of a car, he can charge what he wants and you can offer what you want, but it is all negotiable. Don't let any dealer ever tell you that a fee, besides sales tax and registration fees, are manditory. They may have a dealer policy to charge this or that and you have the right to tell them you will not pay it.

 

This is what my past vehicle paper showed on the pre-delivery and agree with above.

 

Exactly! Just as disclosed, this charge is additional dealer PROFIT. It is not a required fee and you can tell the dealer, "I will not pay this charge." He may say, "then I will not sell you the car." But do not be mislead in any way. This charge is nothing more than additional dealer Mark up.

It is a typical way that dealers add additional Mark-up after negotiating a price with you. If they insist, that this fee is non negotiable and is included on all deals, then you just start your negotiations at $599 less than what you want to pay. So if you are willing to pay MSRP, then your offer to buy the car is MSRP less $599. Such an offer would represent zero discount. The dealer doesn't have to accept it, but understand that you are paying more than MSRP, if you agree to pay this fee without backing it out of your offer.

 

Yup, this is going to be fun when I go to the dealership in about two weeks

 

I'm assuming this is the pre-delivery inspection that all dealers do to prep a car for sale. In our case, this charge is added to the cost of the car before service hands it over to sales. I'm not deluded into thinking this isn't a profit center for service, but understanding this fact doesn't change the cost to sales.

Also, I wouldn't approach it as pure profit since there is some 'real' cost involved, for Hawaii, the safety check for example. Also, mechanics have been known to want to get paid for the time to do this. If the store adds the protection package at this time, there is more cost since the locks, trunk tray and mud guards do cost money.

 

SR45, keep me posted since we'll be buying our Fit after we move to Dunedin!

 

Mega what was the price or discount of the car prior to trade if any? Thanks

 

Will do...

Yes this is a pre delivery inspection but the inspection would never be that amount specially since it does say on the sales sheet its also profit. What I will do if they don't budge, is ask them to throw in Tinting, and a few synthetic oil changes. Done this before and it worked.

 

From what I am seeing around here the base prices are $800 more per model.

 

What I am seeing around here is the model prices are $800 more each over listed on first page. My EX-L was $20590 msrp